MGTOW Survival Guide

Signs Your Woman Is Cheating

2012-01-07T16:52:00.001-08:00

Guys,

As I was going through my old posts and backing them up, I accidentally clicked on a link which led me to this post, the one you're about to read. It's a list of things women do if they're cheating. This will also go into The MGTOW Survival Guide, as it's something men need to know. Enjoy, Fellas...

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If there is something a man cannot overcome in a relationship its humiliation. And indeed, why should he?

This is a message to announce that I am finally offering a public service to help men catch their cheating wife/girlfriend red handed.

I can no linger sit idly by and be indifferent to the cries of my clients and friends who are having their lives shredded by the humiliation of a cheating partner.

What was my tipping point? A client discovered that his 10 Yr old twins were not his. Imagine the anguish. The humiliation!

Not only is that humiliating; not only is the man a genetic dead end (fathering kids that are NOT his); he's legally on the HOOK for those children! Even if the man went into court, showed the judge DNA tests proving the kids aren't his, he'd still be liable for child support.

And get this, in the past two months I’ve already helped 7 men catch their wives red handed!

Good on you, Mate!

Surveys show that most men can go through a divorce or even remain apparently happily married and never know their wife was sleeping with another man, and sometimes men. The existence of any four of these signs means you have some cause for profound concern.

1. She has stories about cheating on a previous partner.
2. She cheated on someone else to be with you.
3. She brags about cheating.
4. She brags about being too smart to be caught.
5. She says you are boring.
6. She refuses to wear panties/underwear.
7. She has a boob job.
8. She has tattoos or body piercings underneath her clothes.
9. She uncharacteristically daydreams while playing with her hair for long periods of time.
10. She is obsessive about wearing form fitting clothes.
11. She flirts with other men.
12. She speaks with admiration about specific men at work.
13. She is repetitively disrespectful to you in private and public.
14. She leaves the room to take calls.
15. She hangs up on calls before answering the call.
16. She unfavorably compares you to other men.
17. She starts shaving body parts she never used to shave before.
18. She is shy about allowing you to see her nude.
19. She dresses sexually but shows no interest in sex with you.
20. She protests you going to the doctors alone with your children.
21. She is coming home late at night or not at all.
22. She packs toiletries when she goes out.
23. She is non-committal in telling you where she is going.
24. She is non-committal in telling you when she will be home.
25. She has great interest in knowing when you will be leaving town.
26. She goes to nightclubs and bars without you.
27. She dresses seductively everywhere she goes.
28. She smiles and laughs with other men but not with you.
29. She opens a new bank account.
30. She withdraws lots of cash and won’t say where it’s going.
31. She has no interest in talking about the future with you.
32. She asks to separate from you.
33. Other women that know her will not allow her near their husbands.
34. Drama with other men seems to follow her in every job.
35. She refuses to introduce you to her male or female friends.
36. You have a nagging feeling that something is terribly off.
37. She makes random speeches about how she would never cheat.
38. She does and says things to take away your power as a man.
39. She disrespects and belittles all men.
40. Your relationship is ALL about filling her needs.
41. Reminisces about previous sexual experiences.
42. Her self esteem is based on the approval of all men, not just one.
43. She has close emotional ties with other men.
44. Too much time at the gym.
45. She tells you not to ‘come’ inside her before a trip.
46. She is secretive and defensive.
47. She gets angry over the smallest of things.
48. Your gut tells you she is not loyal.
49. She is critical of women who are loyal to their man.
50. The passenger seat in the car is consistently changed.
51. Strange hairs on her clothing or in her car.
52. She always seems to have random scratches and bruises.
53. Sex toys show up that you have never known about.
54. Shuts the computer down when you walk in the room.
55. Lingerie shows up that you’ve never seen before.
56. She refuses to linger or cuddle after sex.
57. She does not allow you to get to know her.
58. She thinks nothing of humiliating you.
59. She is seduced by the forbidden and wrong in life.

None of these signs are proof by itself. That’s where I come in. I’ll give help you get the proof you need.

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My methods to help you know if you are being cheated on are extremely subtle, non-confrontational and indeed, the woman in your life need never know that you were suspicious or that I was involved. You won’t even need to leave your house.

In the end, if it is discovered that she is a cheat it will seem to her that she has been caught by coincidence, being none the wiser of what has been happening behind the scenes.

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Within 30 days, you could know if your wife/girlfriend is loyal or if she is a cheat.

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Thank you for your interest in this matter.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge in this matter! This is good stuff to know.

Corey Donaldson
www.TheFreedomAcademy.com
COPYRIGHT 2011 © Corey Donaldson

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Hope this helps you out, Gentlemen...

MarkyMark

Dealing with the Unthinkable...

2011-05-19T20:58:00.001-07:00

Guys,

In a previous post, I posted about and linked to the False Rape Society's classic on avoiding false rape accusations. However, given the misandric laws and legal system, there's a good chance one of us will be wrongfully convicted, and will spend time behind bars for a crime we did NOT commit. What do we do then? This post answers that question; this post will help us deal with the unthinkable: going to prison...

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How To Survive in Prison as an Innocent Man Convicted of a Sex Crime

James D. Anderson*

Psychology Editor's Note: This article includes some strong views that may be surprising and challenging. We have chosen to publish it because we believe prisoners have a right to seek interaction with those outside the prison walls. We also believe there are many innocent men and women in prison who are wrongly convicted of sex offenses. They too, have a right to stand up for their innocence. One of the more poignant episodes in our lives was in June, 1985, when Lois Bentz, accused with her husband, Robert, of sexually abusing children in Jordan, Minnesota, was told by her attorney about a very attractive plea bargain. With tears running down her face, Lois said to us, "I did not do it and I will not say I did something I didn't do." The Bentzes rejected the plea bargain and went to trial. The Bentzes were acquitted and the Jordan case is often regarded as the beginning of the "backlash" that has led to increased awareness of false accusations and the reversals of several highly publicized convictions in recent years.

Still there are many many lesser known cases where Large numbers of innocent people remain behind bars. We receive letters every week from men and women in prison who assert their innocence. For years we have agonized about what we can do in response. The most we have been able to do is to try to stay in contact and provide information to assist those working on appeals. Based upon our experience with Ms. Bentz, we have also tried to say what Mr. Anderson repeats several times in this article -- maintain your own personal integrity. Mr. Anderson tells us how he has done this for himself. It may not be a way that works for everyone, but this is what he tells us works for him. We believe Mr. Anderson is very likely to walk out of prison when his time is served and be standing up straight and tall.

Your only exposure to what prison is like has been through movies that sensationalize the violence, drug use, and sex in the big house. The prison bus you're on rounds a lonely highway corner and you get your first glimpse of what is to be your home for the next 10-odd years -- a steel, razor wire, and concrete house of pain. You wonder how you'll ever make it out of this hate factory alive. You imagine your first day being gang-raped by six huge, tattooed lifers, by the end of the week you're being sold up and down the tier for cigarettes, and within a month, you're found dead in your cell with a twelve-inch "shank" protruding from your chest. Not only are you the new fish in the cell block, but you have been convicted of a sex crime, and you've heard how convicted sex criminals are abused in the joint.

You're one of the thousands of innocent men wrongly convicted of sex crimes in the U.S. every year. Won't it matter to your fellow prisoners that you are not a sex criminal and are completely innocent? Not in the least. It is possible, though, to make it through prison even though you were convicted of a skin beef. You can not only live through the prison experience, you can claim some degree of victory at the end of your unjust prison term. Life will be neither easy nor fun for the innocent man convicted of a sex crime and sent to prison. But, surviving prison is not impossible.

I have spent over seven years in maximum-, medium-, and minimum security prisons after being wrongly convicted of first degree rape -- the result of my having been falsely accused of date rape by a mentally deranged woman with a history of falsely accusing men of sex crimes. I am writing this from the Oregon State Correctional Institution. Although life has not been easy for me in prison, I have managed to keep my self-respect, my dignity, and my integrity. I have spent months in solitary confinement for defending myself when necessary. I have allowed no prisoner, no prison guard, and no member of the parole board to disrespect me due to my wrongful conviction. I have consistently maintained my innocence, even when doing so has added years to my prison term.

I earned a college degree behind bars, and have even escaped from prison once. To help other innocent prisoners, I founded the Society Against False Accusations of Rape (SAFAR), and for five years have published the underground prison publication, The SAFAR Newsletter. Currently, I'm working on my book, Falling on the Deaf Ear: False Accusations of Rape, Child Abuse Hoaxes, Innocent People in Prison and How to End the Sex Crime Witchhunt. I know first-hand what it is to be an innocent man in prison, wrongly convicted of a sex crime, and I know how to survive the prison experience.

Now that you have been falsely accused of rape or child abuse, been convicted in record time, lost all your assets along with your reputation, and been sentenced to 10 years in prison by a judge who couldn't care less that you are innocent, you would think your troubles are over. Think again. You not only have to make it out of the prison with your life and sanity, but with your self-respect, honor, and integrity intact. Let's face it. After being wrongly convicted of a sex crime, your sanity, self-respect, honor, and integrity is all you have left. Prison will not break you if you are a man -- or learn to become a man, even though the main goal of prison officials is to sap the soul from men, and spit out castrated, submissive males. With all the odds against you, it is even possible to walk out of prison a better man with your head held high. Again, it will be neither fun nor easy, but what battle ever is easy? You can either walk out of prison with your manhood intact knowing you beat the corrupt prison industry or you can crawl out on your belly as a hated sex offender.

Outside Contacts

Don't fool yourself that the community will be outraged that you were convicted and sent to prison for a crime you didn't commit or that may have never even occurred. You are now a convicted sex offender and your innocence means nothing. You're the lowest of the low, in and out of prison. There will be no mass protests at the prison gates demanding your release.

Most people believe the propaganda of the sex crime witch hunters and probably feel you should die in prison. Most of your friends will abandon you and even some members of your family will turn their backs on you. Only your very best friends and your immediate family will stick by your side at first and most of them will fall by the wayside in the coming years as you rot in prison.

One of the most important things for the innocent man in prison is to maintain contact with at least one person on the outside. This person can help you try to prove your innocence and keep you current on what's happening outside the prison walls. If you can maintain contact with at least one free worlder to help you, you'll be doing a lot better than some prisoners. Many prisoners lose their friends and their own families and are isolated in prison with no contact with the outside world. You are going to be walking into prison alone and will be alone while you do your time. You need at least one ally in the outside to help free yourself from the nightmare of being thrown in a cage and given the scarlet letter of a convicted sex offender for a crime you did not commit.

Prison violence

For the most part, prisons and correctional institutions are not the hell holes of years past. The "get tough on crime" craze has mutated into "get tough on prisoners." Although prisons are not for continued and endless punishment, politicians don't want to educate or rehabilitate prisoners. Prisoners are to be warehoused like the commodities they've become. College courses and vocational training in prison are a thing of the past. With all the new prisons being built in the U.S., doing time has become quite sterile -- even safe -- because all the new prisons are so controlled and high-tech that prisoners now spend most of their time in their cells.

The idea that prisoners really run the joint is a myth. Some of the older prisons are still dangerous, but these are slowly being phased out. It used to be that only the worst, most dangerous, and most hardened criminal was sent to prison. It was no wonder that penitentiaries were dangerous. But these days, with so many first-time offenders doing mandatory prison terms and so many people being sent to prison, the nation's lock-ups have become diluted with nonviolent prisoners. Today most prisons can even be considered safe.

In all my years behind bars, I've never seen a murder, a stabbing, or a rape. I believe some prisoners try to brag how tough prison is to make themselves look tough. They romanticize their prison experience by telling their friends and family how brutal prison was and how they had to fight for their lives every day. Prison, however, may be harder for the innocent man convicted of a sex crime because of the scorn. In the old days, a convicted sex offender -- innocent or guilty -- was sure to get physically attacked. Today, that is not the case. A man wrongly convicted of a sex crime can make it out of prison unharmed if he stays on his toes and keeps alert.

What about all the violence you read about what goes on in prison? Of course, violence does happen in U.S. penitentiaries, but with over 1.6 million Americans locked up these days, the chance of being one of the few hundred inmates who are killed or seriously injured is slim.

Standing Up for Yourself

Because you were convicted of a sex crime, you will not be winning any popularity contests with your fellow prisoners. At first, the other prisoners may mark you to be victimized and harassed. If you don't stand tall and fight back, you'll be victimized your entire prison term. You must stand up for yourself when you are tested by some idiot who thinks you're a rape-o, "Chester," "tree jumper," or "freak." In 1989, I was compelled to beat a man who attacked me with a folding chair. Besides a little blood, neither one of us was hurt badly. I did accidentally break a guard's hand in the melee and I've also had to fight a couple of other morons who disrespected me, but I haven't had any trouble in years. It is well worth it to spend a few months in solitary confinement for defending yourself when the option is being harassed continually in general population. Another option is hiding for years in Protective Custody (PC), totally separated from the rest of the prison, and locked in a cell for 24-hours a day. But only the weakest prisoners go PC, and I don't recommend it.

For the most part, even for the wrongly convicted sex offender, if you don't owe debts from gambling or drugs, and if you stay away from the homosexuals, keep your head down, don't bother anyone, and don't act like a wimp and whine about your wrongful conviction, you won't have to worry about prison violence. There is very little chance that you will be killed or even stabbed. But, if something does happen and you need to defend your good name, be a man and do it. In prison, your good name is all you have. If trouble comes your way in prison, you have to deal with it on the spot. Where are you going to run? You're in a cage.

Inmates and Convicts

During my years in prison I have found that there are two types of prisoners -- inmates and convicts. Inmates will not fight if their lives depend on it and they will kiss any ass that comes their way. Inmates are the type of prisoners who go on national TV to praise prison officials and prison programs for straightening out their miserable lives. The inmate has no loyalty to anything or anyone except himself. Inmates will do anything to please their captors and cheerfully inform and rat on other prisoners for breaking prison rules. Inmates are not men.

Be aware that you can't always tell an inmate worm by his cover. The biggest, baddest killer on the tier can be the biggest, snitch rat in the joint. On the other hand, convicts used to be very common in U.S. prisons, but are now a dying breed. A true convict would never rat on anyone, would take no disrespect, would fight when necessary and would be loyal and live by a code of honor. Unlike an inmate, a convict is a man.

A convicted sex offender will never be considered a true convict by other prisoners, but you can live by your own code of honor in prison. Never whine or complain about your wrongful conviction; sniveling will only make you appear weak and make you a target. Other prisoners don't care about your innocence. The prison hierarchy has you at the bottom of the prison barrel. Your jacket is that of a sex offender but it's up to you if you wear this degrading jacket. You will find that the only prisoners who hang around the sex offender are other wide-eyed, scared, spineless sex offenders. Even though prison is going to be very lonely for the innocent man convicted of a sex crime, you don't want to befriend confessed sex offenders. Also, stay away from the prison chapel. For some strange reason, confessed sex offenders always find God in prison and carry their Bibles for all to see to show how repentant they are. In short, even though no one convicted of a sex beef can be a true convict, you must strive to be one.

Talking About Your Conviction

You may think that if you don't tell any of your fellow prisoners you were convicted of a sexual offense that no one will be the wiser and you won't be harassed. You may think that you can tell people you're a bank robber and even be a hero in prison. Nice try, but lying about what you were convicted of will not work. There are no secrets in prison, especially on why you are there. You're in prison now, and any possibility of privacy or keeping secrets is long gone. Be honest when talking about your wrongful conviction and get ready to defend yourself if it becomes necessary.

All of the convicted sex offenders (innocent or guilty) whom I've heard tell other prisoners that they were burglars or robbers in an effort to hide their convictions were eventually exposed. If you lie about your conviction, you will be exposed. Then, any attempts to claim innocence will not be believed and your prison time may get very tough. Don't advertise your wrongful conviction, or the facts of your supposed crime, but when asked why you're in prison, be honest.

Although a convicted sex offender can never gain full respect in prison, I've managed to gain some measure of respect by being truthful about why I am in prison, and fighting when necessary. Sure, some punk may call me a "rape-o" behind my back, but no prisoner ever disrespects me face to face. With so many innocent men being sent to prison these days on false accusations of rape and child abuse, the general prison population is starting to understand how widespread the sex crime witchhunt has become, and how many innocent men are now in prison due to false allegations. False reports of rape and other sex crimes are so common that an innocent man wrongfully convicted of a sex crime will not be alone.

Prison Guards

The men and women who hold the key to your freedom (the prison guards) should be considered your enemy. There is a reason that surveys on job status and job satisfaction often rate being a prison guard as the lowest job a person can hold. No one respects prison guards, and they know it. What kind of man or woman would want to examine body openings for contraband, turn keys, and stand around and do nothing for a living? Prison guards hate their jobs and blame prisoners for their unhappy and unfulfilled lives. It takes no ambition, no talent, no drive, or any creativity to be a corrections officer. Even police officers know this, and look down on the lowly prison guard. Think about it. Does any kid have dreams of being a corrections officer when he or she grows up?

The Golden Rule to remember not only about prison guards, but about anyone that works inside the prison in which you are held captive, is to stay as far away from them as possible and avoid even talking to them unnecessarily. Even if you happen to run across a prison guard who appears to be halfway human, don't befriend him. Every inmate whom I've seen develop any type of friendship with any prison employee was, in the end, betrayed and shunned by other prisoners. Don't collaborate with anyone other than fellow prisoners while in prison. Every prison official or staff member is your enemy. Never forget that. They will gladly shoot you in the back if they feel the need. Don't make eye contact with the people who work at the prison because if you avoid eye contact they will leave you alone. The less contact you have with prison employees, the better off you will be.

In all my years in prison, I've observed hundreds of prison guards and only a couple could be considered normal. The typical male guard I have encountered is not someone you would consider a winner. He is usually a skinny geek (or is extremely overweight), is undereducated, has no ambition and is sadistic. His idea of success is a monthly state paycheck, a trailer home, a 12-pack of beer, and nightly TV. The typical female prison guard is homosexual, physically unattractive, overweight, and more masculine than most male prison guards. She's mad at the world for not being born a man and she takes her penis envy out on prisoners.

I fully admit my dislike for prison guards because I am convinced that every prison guard in the U.S. has witnessed, encouraged, and/or participated in the torture or murder of prisoners. Prison guards are cowards with a badge who are protected by the state and prison guard unions. Your only allies in prison are other prisoners. Never forget it.

Keeping Fit

One of the most important things to do while doing your prison time is to keep in the very best physical shape possible. Every prison has a weight room, and I strongly suggest pumping iron. Being in top shape not only feels good, but it's good for your head and will help you think more clearly. By working out, running, exercising, and eating as well as possible, you will be physically able to defend yourself in case of any violent situations. You will also be able to think straight to combat your unjust conviction. All the guys whom I've seen go insane in prison did not care about their health. They rotted in front of a TV for years until they were just a shell of a man. At age thirty-five, I am now in the best shape of my life and feel great.

Another reason to stay healthy in prison is that medical services are notoriously horrid. One of my worst prison experiences was when our prison doctor told me that blood tests indicated that I had liver cancer. He smiled gleefully as he told me I had only a year to live. I tried to learn more, but he refused to answer my questions and ordered me out of his office. For months I thought I was going to leave this mad house on a slab. I learned later that my blood test indicated only that I had been exposed to hepatitis in the past. The good prison doctor told me I was dying for his own sick amusement.

Dental services are just as bad in prison. I'm currently waiting to have a back molar filled. I cracked my tooth on a rock in some chili in the chow hall. I've been on the waiting list to see the dentist for over six months now, and will probably lose the tooth due to neglect. There is nothing I can do about it.

While in prison, stay in shape, work out, run, and try to eat well -- even though that's nearly impossible with the garbage that passes for food in prison. But, although you may get depressed, lonely, and frustrated in prison, never go to the prison psychologist. Prison shrinks only want to drug prisoners into submission. One of the newest fads in corrections is tranquilizers that are given out like candy to pacify and control inmates. What better way to turn prisoners into submissive zombies than by medicating them for depression and anxiety. Don't fall into the medication trap in prison. You need to be clear-headed while doing time, not in a drugged-out haze.

When you go to prison, settle down and find a positive routine. After the shock of prison wears off, and the other prisoners figure out you will defend yourself, you'll be left alone to do your time. Don't sit around vegetating in front of a TV, playing cards or reading westerns. Don't waste your time complaining about your wrongful conviction and what a poor victim you are. Don't turn into what I call a "prison zombie" who does his time like he's waiting to die. Your main mission in prison will be trying to get your unjust conviction overturned. Learn as much about the law and the corrupt legal system as you can. Get to know the prisoner law clerks in the law library, and spend as much time in the library as possible. Study every aspect of your case, and stay on top of your attorney. Your lawyer is not the one in prison, you are. The appeals process takes years. Prisoners rarely win a new trial because the criminal justice system is not about truth and justice, but you can't win if you don't try. Fighting the legal system will be frustrating and depressing, but try not to give up hope.

Not only do we prisoners have to stick together, but we men must also join forces in our fight against feminism. Become a soldier in the Men's Rights Fight. Contact the antifeminist, pro-family men's groups in your area, as well as some of the national groups.

Sex Offender Treatment

One of the most profitable scams in the prison behavioral modification business is the sex-offender treatment industry. Because you were convicted of a sex offense, you are now fuel for the sex-offender treatment profiteers. You will be expected to confess to your crime, end all appeals for a fair trial, dismiss all delusions of innocence, and participate in sex-offender treatment along with admitted child molesters and serial rapists. Confession is the main tenet of sex-offender treatment. It does not matter to prison officials that you have always maintained your innocence and are in the process of appeal.

Thousands of people work in the sex-offender treatment industry and to justify their high-paying state jobs you must confess to your offense. You are the meal ticket not only of prison guards but also sex-offender treatment providers. As a wrongly convicted prisoner, you should have nothing to do with sex-offender treatment. Be a man, and stand up for what is right. There will be repercussions for you for not confessing and becoming another admitted sex offender. You will be denied any good-time off your prison term and early parole will be out of the question. I have always refused to even speak to sex-offender treatment counselors. Not only have I been denied any time off my sentence for good behavior, but the Oregon Parole Board has labeled me mentally unfit and dangerous to society because I refuse to confess, show remorse, and beg for forgiveness.

Not only should you avoid sex-offender treatment, but I suggest you refuse to participate in any behavior modification programs in prison. Don't admit anything to prison officials or prison counselors. Those who work in the behavior modification industry behind prison walls will use anything you tell them against you. Tell them nothing about your past. Prison counselors are not your friends.

Never talk to any prison psychologist. There is no faster way to be labeled mentally and emotionally unfit than to trust a prison psychologist. As a convicted sex offender, innocent or not, you are the bread and butter of the sex-offender treatment industry, prison counselors/psychologists, and prison guards. The only way they can justify their jobs is to keep you in their prison programs as long as possible. Be aware of their true motives, don't trust them, tell them nothing, and never doubt yourself. You owe them nothing.

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Hopefully, none of us will ever need this information, but you never know. In this PC, misandric world, a man can go to prison on little more than the woman's say-so; if a woman points the finger in your direction, you could go to prison. Having a plan for dealing with the unthinkable will leave us all better prepared should it happen to us...

MarkyMark

How to Tell If Your Girlfriend Is Psycho...

2011-03-12T14:03:00.000-08:00

Guys,

Here's an INDISPENSABLE tool for any MGHOW: discerning psycho women. Here's a video to help figure out if your GF is a psycho bitch...

Hangin' On, by Chris in OR

2011-02-13T18:48:00.003-08:00

Guys,

I was reading at Happy Bachelors when I found the following post. I know I've posted this or something similar, but this needs to be repeated; this is something my boys need to hear. They need to hear about how to make it till 30, when the allure of women wears off...

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During my twenties my parents constantly told me if I could just get to thirty, I would be home free. They were right.

Women, even the truly attractive ones, somehow just aren't that attractive once your sex drive starts to disappear. The fog lifts, and you start noticing the annoying and down-right rotten things about women that you never noticed when you were blinded by your sex drive.

You start seeing the physical imperfections that even the prettiest women have. The blemishes. The overuse of cosmetics. Things caught in their teeth. Plaque build-up. Hair on the lip. Less than perfect hair dye. Bad hair cut. Bushy eye brows. Bad breath. The stupid laugh that grates on your nerves. Her lack of knowledge in current affairs. Shit. The list grows ever longer as you grow older, and your patience grows shorter.

Women simply start to annoy by their mere presence after a point in life.

When you hit forty, the situation becomes laughable. If you listen to nothing else I say, boys, trust me on this one:

The satisfaction you get from snubbing or cancelling out on a date at the last minute with a 35+ attractive woman makes the misery you suffered at the hands of women all worth while.

Granted; I never really suffered, as I avoided them, but what the heck, I might as well enjoy it as long as it's being throw in my face.

I took the last few days off work, and rode my Harley Beasties around. Just because I bloody-well wanted to. Today, I rode all around the snow covered mountains surrounding Mt. St. Helens. An absolute blast. Most of the roads are still closed due to extremely heavy snow. So, I rode where I could, and sat at a viewpoint for about fifteen minutes talking about motorcycles with the Under-Sheriff of Skamania county. He rides, and we had a blast sitting there staring at Mt. St. Helens and talking about the Elk and Deer that inhabit the area. It was a memory that will last forever. Fifteen minutes with a total stranger permanantley imprinted on my mind. It sure beat the hell out of spending the day perusing the aisles of K-Mart with a fat bitch of a wife.

I came home, watched movies, a few episodes of Hogan's Heroes, and it's off to bed. Tomorrow, I stop by the doctor because I've been riding my bikes so much, it's re-activated a long dormant 'roid. Hope he can cure it. lol. Ah, the penalties of being a care-free bachelor. Oops. I meant joys.

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Amen! Just hang in there, Fellas; sooner or later your sex drive will die off, and you too can be free from the clutches of a terrible beast; you too can resist the allure of women. I needed to be reminded of this, so I don't get the hots for someone like Maria. WTF was I thinking?! Anyway, thanks for the reminder, Chris! Until next time...

MarkyMark

Outlaw2747's Thoughts on Dating

2011-01-30T18:13:00.001-08:00

Folks,

I was just rereading a thread on Mancoat, and it was about ending dating bitterness. This fine post was by Outlaw2747. Armageddon15 nominated it for post of the year-it's THAT good! I decided to give it a wider audience. There is much truth in Outlaw2747's words; I found them to be uplifting, edifying, enlightening, etc., and I hope you do too...

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I say don't do anything (or at the most very little) for women. If you desire them so, let them come to you. Sometimes you have to be selfish to get things to go your way in life. No one on this damn earth will take of you better than you. I'll show you what I mean, the common denominator is quite simple:

-Get a new car because YOU like it, not because it'll attract a female.

-Get a new outfit because you feel you'll look good in it, not to attract some female.

-Get a decent job because you want to live a decent life, not to get some female's attention.

-Be good at dancing because it is fun, not to attract a female.

-Listen to what you want to listen to because it sounds good, not because it'll be an icebreaker for a female.

-Read whatever you want to read because YOU enjoy it, not to impress a female.

-Work out because you want to live a longer and healthier life, not to get females to touch your body.

-Own a dog because you love it and it is a great companion, not to have more females come up to you.

-Learn to fight because you want to defend yourself, not to show a female how bad ass you are.

AND MOST OF ALL...

Be yourself. Why kill yourself to impress some female that will not accept you for you? You have worked so hard to become what you are now, why throw that away for the promises of a potential piece of ass or to hopefully get a good girl out of a wench? Make changes in your life because it is healthy for your welfare. Stop smoking because it is nasty. Stop eating junk because it'll make you fat. Stop or slow down drinking so you won't wind up on the 6 o'clock news in a body bag. Don't do it to make a female like you.

That is the problem with this country, all this focus on grabbing a female and little focus on grabbing a good life. Sure, once in a while and step into the waters to see what female life is out there and pursue what you find interesting (only because you WANT to and not because you NEED to). Whether it be for a friend, girlfriend, or marriage (I personally do not recommend that however, especially in the USA.). But always remember this, your home, money, personal will, and even the dog will always be there if you keep up with them, a female will come and go. Don't make large expectations when it comes to a date so when the disappointment hits, it isn't so bad.

But for those who do not wish to date or do little of it, take it from me... THERE IS NO SHAME IN BEING SINGLE OR CELIBATE.

Cost/Benefit Analysis of Getting Poon, by BEM

2011-01-26T19:45:00.000-08:00

Guys,

I have some BRILLIANT commenters here @ MarkyMark's Thoughts on Various Issues; I'm humbled when they share their thoughts, given their depth of wisdom, experience, and knowledge. The following comment was made in response to the OCS classic I posted recently: My Take on All Women Aren't Like That. You'll see why when you read BEM's thoughts on the cost/benefit analysis of poon. This is good stuff! Enjoy...

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Since the issue of game has been raised, I would like to chime in. I have, in my time, practiced game and gotten my share of poontang, for whatever it's worth - and let me tell you, as someone who is nearing forty, and who's shagged dozens of women, that the costs of pussy FAR outweigh the benefits.

Don't believe me? Consider the case of Ben Roethlisberger, a multi-millionaire athlete and two-time Super Bowl champion, a man at whom most women would hurl themselves in a heartbeat. The word just came out that Big Ben will not be charged with sexual assault for the incident that occurred in Georgia last month. Sources say that the alleged victim made inconsistent statements in her testimony, and had a high blood alcohol content on the night of the incident.

This is all unsurprising to me, as well as to many readers of MM's blog, but consider this: What if Roethlisberger was NOT a wealthy man who could counter the shenanigans of law enforcement officials with a crack investigative team of his own? In other words, what if he was like you or me? His life would be in ruins, that's what.

I've been where the game-players like illness are, cocky as shit, thinking they've got the world by the tail, that nothing bad will happen to them as they chase tail, night after night. Well, as a retired game-player, I can look back on my pussy-chasing days and realize that for the most part, in regards to any ramifications from my actions, I was lucky more than I was good.

The same goes for the other game-players out there. Guys, you can be as damn well arrogant as you like, but right now you're beating the law of averages, that's all. Maybe you'll be lucky like me and continue to stay a few steps ahead of disaster - but then again, maybe you won't. I advise you to pause, and consider my words.

One can only beat the laws of averages and probability for so long. To put it another way, sooner or later, your luck WILL run out, Fellas...

After all, it only takes ONE woman to "regret" being with you ONE time to turn your life into a never-ending FUBAR nightmare.

BEM

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As I said, that was GREAT! It's a warning to all you PUA studs out there; sooner or later, your luck will run out, and you best remember that. Until next time...

MarkyMark

The Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics

2010-07-11T08:15:00.000-07:00

Guys,

Pardon my oversight, but the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics isn't part of the MGTOW Survival Guide. Shame on me! If anything should be part of this site's reading material, it would be the catalog of shaming tactics. Men need to be aware of the manipulative tricks women use, and they need to know how to counter them. Without any further ado, here's the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics...

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“Shaming tactics.” This phrase is familiar to many Men’s Rights Activists. It conjures up the histrionic behavior of female detractors who refuse to argue their points with logic. Yet women are not the only ones guilty of using shaming tactics against men. Male gynocentrists use them, too.

Shaming tactics are emotional devices meant to play on a man’s insecurities and shut down debate. They are meant to elicit sympathy for women and to demonize men who ask hard questions. Most, if not all, shaming tactics are basically ad homimem attacks.

Anyway, it might be helpful to categorize the major shaming tactics that are used against men whenever a discussion arises about feminism, men’s issues, romance, etc. The following list contains descriptions of shaming tactics, some examples of quotes employing the tactics, and even color-coded aliases for mnemonic purposes. Enjoy.

Charge of Irascibility (Code Red)

Discussion: The target is accused of having anger management issues. Whatever negative emotions he has are assumed to be unjustifiable. Examples:

“You’re bitter!”
“You need to get over your anger at women.”
“You are so negative!”

Response: Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice. It is important to remember that passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.

Charge of Cowardice (Code Yellow)

Discussion: The target is accused of having an unjustifiable fear of interaction with women. Examples:

“You need to get over your fear.”
“Step up and take a chance like a man!”
“You’re afraid of a strong woman!”

Response: It is important to remember that there is a difference between bravery and stupidity. The only risks that reasonable people dare to take are calculated risks. One weighs the likely costs and benefits of said risks. As it is, some men are finding out that many women fail a cost-benefit analysis.

Charge of Hypersensitivity (Code Blue) – The Crybaby Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being hysterical or exaggerating the problems of men (i.e., he is accused of playing “Chicken Little”). Examples:

“Stop whining!”
“Get over it!”
“Suck it up like a man!”
“You guys don’t have it as nearly as bad as us women!”
“You’re just afraid of losing your male privileges.”
“Your fragile male ego …”
“Wow! You guys need to get a grip!”

Response: One who uses the Code Blue shaming tactic reveals a callous indifference to the humanity of men. It may be constructive to confront such an accuser and ask if a certain problem men face needs to be addressed or not (“yes” or “no”), however small it may be seem to be. If the accuser answers in the negative, it may constructive to ask why any man should care about the accuser’s welfare since the favor will obviously not be returned. If the accuser claims to be unable to do anything about the said problem, one can ask the accuser why an attack is necessary against those who are doing something about it.

Charge of Puerility (Code Green) – The Peter Pan Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being immature and/or irresponsible in some manner that reflects badly on his status as an adult male. Examples:

“Grow up!”
“You are so immature!”
“Do you live with your mother?”
“I’m not interested in boys. I’m interested in real men.”
“Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children.”

Response: It should be remembered that one’s sexual history, marital status, parental status, etc. are not reliable indicators of maturity and accountability. If they were, then we would not hear of white collar crime, divorce, teen sex, unplanned pregnancies, extramarital affairs, etc.

Charge of Endangerment (Code Orange) – The Elevated Threat Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being a menace in some undefined manner. This charge may be coupled with some attempt to censor the target. Examples:

“You guys are scary.”
“You make me feel afraid.”

Response: It may be constructive to point out that only bigots and tyrants are afraid of having the truth expressed to them. One may also ask why some women think they can handle leadership roles if they are so threatened by a man’s legitimate freedom of expression.

Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) – The Sour Grapes Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example:

“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”

Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, “What if the grapes really are sour?” At any rate, the Code Purple shaming tactic is an example of what is called “circumstantial ad hominem.”

Charge of Fanaticism (Code Brown) – The Brown Shirts Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of subscribing to an intolerant, extremist ideology or of being devoted to an ignorant viewpoint. Examples:

“You’re one of those right-wing wackos.”
“You’re an extremist”
“You sound like the KKK.”
“… more anti-feminist zaniness”

Response: One should remember that the truth is not decided by the number of people subscribing to it. Whether or not certain ideas are “out of the mainstream” is besides the point. A correct conclusion is also not necessarily reached by embracing some middle ground between two opposing viewpoints (i.e., the logical fallacy of “False Compromise”).

Charge of Invirility (Code Lavender)

Discussion: The target’s sexual orientation or masculinity is called into question. Examples:

“Are you gay?”
“I need a real man, not a sissy.”
“You’re such a wimp.”

Response: Unless one is working for religious conservatives, it is usually of little consequence if a straight man leaves his accusers guessing about his sexual orientation.

Charge of Overgeneralization (Code Gray)

Discussion: The target is accused of making generalizations or supporting unwarranted stereotypes about women. Examples:

“I’m not like that!”
“Stop generalizing!”
“That’s a sexist stereotype!”

Response: One may point out that feminists and many other women make generalizations about men. Quotations from feminists, for example, can be easily obtained to prove this point. Also, one should note that pointing to a trend is not the same as overgeneralizing. Although not all women may have a certain characteristic, a significant amount of them might.

Charge of Misogyny (Code Black)

Discussion: The target is accused of displaying some form of unwarranted malice to a particular woman or to women in general. Examples:

“You misogynist creep!”
“Why do you hate women?”
“Do you love your mother?”
“You are insensitive to the plight of women.”
“You are mean-spirited.”
“You view women as doormats.”
“You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
“You are going to make me cry.”

Response: One may ask the accuser how does a pro-male agenda become inherently anti-female (especially since feminists often claim that gains for men and women are “not a zero-sum game”). One may also ask the accuser how do they account for women who agree with the target’s viewpoints. The Code Black shaming tactic often integrates the logical fallacies of “argumentum ad misericordiam” (viz., argumentation based on pity for women) and/or “argumentum in terrorem” (viz., arousing fear about what the target wants to do to women).

Charge of Instability (Code White) – The White Padded Room Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being emotionally or mentally unstable. Examples:

“You’re unstable.”
“You have issues.”
“You need therapy.”
“Weirdo!”

Response: In response to this attack, one may point to peer-reviewed literature and then ask the accuser if the target’s mental and/or emotional condition can explain the existence of valid research on the matter.

Charge of Selfishness (Code Silver)

Discussion: This attack is self-explanatory. It is a common charge hurled at men who do not want to be bothered with romantic pursuits. Examples:

“You are so materialistic.”
“You are so greedy.”

Response: It may be beneficial to turn the accusation back on the one pressing the charge. For instance, one may retort, “So you are saying I shouldn’t spend my money on myself, but should instead spend it on a woman like you —and you accuse me of being selfish?? Just what were you planning to do for me anyway?”

Charge of Superficiality (Code Gold) – The All-That-Glitters Charge

Discussion: The charge of superficiality is usually hurled at men with regard to their mating preferences. Examples:

“If you didn’t go after bimbos, then …”
“How can you be so shallow and turn down a single mother?”

Response: Average-looking women can be just as problematic in their behavior as beautiful, “high-maintanence” women. Regarding the shallowness of women, popular media furnishes plenty of examples where petty demands are made of men by females (viz., those notorious laundry lists of things a man should/should not do for his girlfriend or wife).

Charge of Unattractiveness (Code Tan) – The Ugly Tan Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of having no romantic potential as far as women are concerned. Examples:

“I bet you are fat and ugly.”
“You can’t get laid!”
“Creep!”
“Loser!”
“Have you thought about the problem being you?”

Response: This is another example of “circumstantial ad hominem.” The target’s romantic potential ultimately does not reflect on the merit of his arguments.

Charge of Defeatism (Code Maroon)

Discussion: This shaming tactic is akin to the Charge of Irascibility and the Charge of Cowardice in that the accuser attacks the target’s negative or guarded attitude about a situation. However, the focus is not so much on the target’s anger or fear, but on the target’s supposed attitude of resignation. Examples:

“Stop being so negative.”
“You are so cynical.”
“If you refuse to have relationships with women, then you are admitting defeat.”
“C’mon! Men are doers, not quitters.”

Response: The charge of defeatism can be diffused by explaining that one is merely being realistic about a situation. Also, one can point out that asking men to just accept their mistreatment at the hands of women and society is the real attitude that is defeatist. Many men have not lost their resolve; many have lost their patience.

Threat of Withheld Affection (Code Pink) – The Pink Whip

Discussion: The target is admonished that his viewpoints or behavior will cause women to reject him as a mate. Examples:

“No woman will marry you with that attitude.”
“Creeps like you will never get laid!”

Response: This is an example of the logical fallacy “argumentum ad baculum” (the “appeal to force”). The accuser attempts to negate the validity of a position by pointing to some undesirable circumstance that will befall anyone who takes said position. Really, the only way to deal with the “Pink Whip” is to realize that a man’s happiness and worth is not based on his romantic conquests (including marriage).

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This is knowledge that EVERY MGHOW must have. I feel better now that I have this precious knowledge here as well. Thank you, and good day...

MarkyMark

The Wife Whisperer, by Laura Grace Robins

2010-06-30T18:50:00.000-07:00

Guys,

I'm able to hit a local wireless network, so I'm striking while the iron's hot. I'm posting Laura Grace Robins' shot heard round the world; I'm posting the post that has women worldwide in a tizzy; I'm talkin' about the post that's got everyone talking. I'm talkin' about The Wife Whisperer, folks! Without any further ado, here's the post everyone is talking about...

This is also a worthy addition to the MGTOW Survival Guide, which is why I'm including it here. MGTOW means exactly what it says: men going their own way. For some, that may include a relationship with a woman. For a rare few, this will include marriage also. For those of my fellow MGTOW who fall into either of the two categories, here is the "Reader's Digest condensed version" of how to have a successful relationship with a woman. As such, it's worthy of inclusion here. Thank you.

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Well, I'm going to get some heat for this one, but the analogy is worth pointing out. I can't help watching the Dog Whisperer show without seeing that a husband can also apply the same techniques to his wife. The major theme that Cesar Millan tries to get across is that as a dog owner you need to show that you are the leader of the pack and that you want your dog to be in a "calm and submissive" state. Hmmmmm, sounds familiar, huh? Discussions from my post, Submitting Love, got me to thinking if only there was a 'wife whisperer' who could come in and teach husbands how to get a handle on their wives. Below, I will offer some suggestions that are adapted from Cesar Millan's techniques.

If you are offended by my woman/dog analogies, please don't start barking at me. It only proves my point. Afterall, how did women get referred to as 'bitches' in the first place.

Here is a clip where Cesar discusses how to give affection to a dog. As you watch, every time he says "dog", put in "wife" instead. I think you will notice some curious similarities.

If you are only giving "heart and body" in your affection, you will be "dragged all over the place and she won't care". Sound familiar? Therefore, you also have to give "mind". Notice the dog at the 1:53 mark. He says in that state, you can shower on all the affection you want, because she is being "calm and submissive". He says most people share affection when the mind is, "excited, aggressive, tense, fearful, panicky, unstable; people unfortunately have a tendency to share affection in order to calm the mind down--that only intensifies the behavior. It says "I agree with that behavior". So, in other words, when your wife is excited, aggressive, tense, fearful, unstable, etc., don't share affection, it only intensifies the behavior.

The best thing to do may be just be to walk away and let the unstable moment pass until she then assumes the 'calm and submissive' state. At that point, lay on the affection. It's positive reinforcement. The current cultural assumption is that when a woman is exhibiting any of those unstable traits, that you are suppose to console and comfort her. A man would be considered heartless if he walks away. Usually he is also considered heartless if he stays and says the wrong thing. So, what is a man to do? Often you just can't win with either and unstable dog or woman.

I think it also depends on whether she is throwing a hissy-fit over something trivial or whether there is some tragedy going on such as: a death in the family, loss of job, etc. In those cases, affection is appropriate and timely. I am not saying that men should never give affection to their wives; I'm saying, "only at the right time".

Here I found an article called, "How to Control Your Dog's Behavior by Being a Pack Leader". Below, I took some parts from that article and everywhere they wrote "dog", I swapped in "wife/woman". Some parts don't apply, like "How to Put on a Choke Chain". Believe it or not, I am NOT advocating that. Regardless, give it a read and you will see that it eerily makes sense. My extra thoughts are put in parentheses.

How to Control Your Wife's Behavior by Being a Pack Leader

Is your wife doing a behavior that you don't approve of? Does she pull you around? Do you feel that you can't control her? Is it hard to take items (pretty things) away from her without being bitten (not literally of course)?To solve all the symptoms, we must get to the root of the matter. Your wife is most likely thinking that she is the pack leader, or at least she is confused about who is the pack leader. When you claim leadership, the wife is free and content to be a happy willing follower.

1. Good Reasons to be a Pack Leader
Your wife will remain well-behaved, even around other women who may or may not be.
Your wife will learn to respect your possessions.
Reduces constant barking (or whining).
Your wife will be less anxious and nervous.
Your wife will be happier and more content.

2. Learn to Think like a Woman
Realize that there are some areas where women do think like men, and some areas where they do not. This is important because often men will reinforce negative behavior without knowing it.
Realize that women live in the present much more than men do. Just because a woman has done something for a while, doesn't mean that she can't change. In the same way, just because a woman has had a tough upbringing, or might have been abused, doesn't mean that she can't be rehabilitated into a loving, calm wife.
Women do not have guilt or pity in their mindsets/thinking. If a man expresses these emotions, a woman will interpret them as weakness.
Women can be given affection without being touched. A look can also convey affection.
Women have different levels of excitability that they progress through. A problem woman that goes into a frenzy in certain situations cannot be corrected when she has reached her highest level of intensity. You must correct at the lower levels to prevent her from becoming out of control.

3. Learn the Pack Mentality
Women have a pack mentality (or herd mentality). If you have a wife, you are a member of the same pack that she is.
If a husband shows weakness when he first brings her into their pack, the wife will often try to become the pack leader herself.
There will always be a pack leader. If you make sure that it is you, then you'll be able to control your wife in any situation because they will look to you to see how they should react.
A woman will try to become the pack leader if no one else is.
Consider women in a pack (think women and their girlfriend cliques; think how one woman in that group always tends to be the leader and the other women follow whatever she does). Women are happier when they know their place in the pack. Your wife will be more content and happy when you consistently behave like a pack leader. If you allow your wife to be leader in the home, but want to be the leader in other areas, you will frustrate your wife. (The trick, as a husband, is becoming that one popular woman in the girlfriend clique who she will follow around).
A pack leader ... (I recognize some of these are more a wife's realm, deciding about dinner, etc.)
Decides where the pack will go.
Decides when the pack will eat.
Decides who gets what food.
Decides who is allowed to bark (whine) and when (if at all).
Decides when the pack is allowed to play (decides when to separate business from pleasure).
Decides what the pack is allowed to play with (decides who are appropriate friends that will exert good influences).
Decides how other members of the pack must behave (decides how the family should behave).
Decides who owns what.
The rest of the pack is not resentful of how this works. To them, it is normal. If you modify your behavior to fit to this model (when relating to your wife), your wife will be content because her pack is working the way her instincts say it should. ( I think that is particularly interesting, about how her instincts say it should work, NOT how society says it should).
When pack leaders correct children in their pack, they are rarely aggressive, but just assertive. Men must learn this combination of calm assertiveness to master their role as the pack leader

4. Be Calm and Assertive When Dealing with Your Wife
Assertive is different than aggressive.
If your wife knows voice commands, use them:
Only in firm tones.
Don't use a high-pitched voice.
Don't speak in a cutesy voice, like you would to a baby.
Do not speak in anger.
Don't say it as if you are asking the wife a question.
If you give a command and you know your wife is purposefully ignoring you, stop giving the command, you're just making it worse.
If you have seen Star Wars, the "Jedi mind trick" is a good example of calm assertiveness. Not the waving of hands, but the firmness and calmness of the tone of voice.

5. Be the Pack Leader
A less dominant man can become the leader of many much larger and stronger woman. It is a matter of attitude, not physical power or strength.
Ways you can convey to your wife that you are the pack leader:
Exit the house first when you go out. Enter first when you go in.
Sit at the head of the table.
Let your wife know what behaviors you, as the pack leader, don't like.
Be consistent to correct any behavior that you don't want. Your wife will be confused if sometimes you correct her, and sometimes you don't.

Other Tips
Be assertive, but not aggressive.
Do not yell at your wife. If you think you have to, you are doing something wrong.
Share affection as much as you want, but only when your wife is in a calm, submissive state of mind.
Women usually want to please men. Be consistent, so they understand what you expect of them.
Be consistent. It will help your wife learn more quickly, and help them to trust you.

The last thing I want to bring up is that Cesar will often give a dog a little pinch when it is misbehaving. So perhaps a little pinch or squeeze of the hand will also do the wife good. Out in public, if she is getting too loud or annoying, or simply just not being respectful, give her a little sign that that sort of behavior is not acceptable. Works for me, and has caused me to bite my tongue. Sometimes it is also just a look. Come to think of it, don't pinch---that will get you a DV charge--ha!

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Thank you, Laura. That's great stuff! Until next time...

MarkyMark

How to Be A Zero Tolerance Man, by ZTM

2010-04-20T17:51:00.000-07:00

Guys,

I was over @ ZTM's blog when I came across this. I thought it would be an excellent addition to the MGTOW Survival Guide...

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What are the rules for being a “zero tolerance man” ?

What must you do to live the zero tolerance lifestyle?

Here are the rules and they should improve your life as a man dramatically:

* Do not even consider the possibility of marriage to any women. No marriage, period. The chances are good that it won’t work out and you will lose money in the process. Women only view men as human ATMs and sperm donors. They just want your money and will leave you as soon as the money is gone!. NO MARRIAGE.

* Put your own needs and desires first. Do not let anyone get you off the track of your own goals. Women are dream killers and time wasters. The most you should do with women is fuck them and then dump them when you are done. Be very careful to use DOUBLE birth control. When these women cannot prove they are using something, I stick an Encare Oval spermicide deep into her pussy and use a condom too. If she get’s pregnant, it could possibly ruin your life. Kids are a nightmare and a huge expense. No pregnancies.

* The most you should ever pay for is a drink or 2 to get her drunk enough to screw. Do NOT pay for dinners, concerts, travel, or movies. You should only be spending time with women if you are screwing them or preparing them with alcohol for sex. Otherwise, you should not be with them at all.

* Do NOT give women any attention in public. Ignore them like they don’t exist in the supermarket, gym, etc. Do not look at them at all. Otherwise, you will be feeding the ego of these attention whores. Don’t give these cunts what they want. No eye contact!!!! Walk past them like the are garbage on the ground. If they speak to you do not answer in any more than 1 word answers. Walk away as quickly as possible.

* Live alone. Never share your living space with women. You will be sorry if you do. this applies to roommates as well as “romantic” relationships

* Pursue hobbies, sports, and work on self improvement. Make physical and emotional health your top priority. Women will tear your health down by making you work to death to pay for their crap. So, don’t do it!

* Do not buy a car or clothes to attract women. It will only attract high maintenance bitches. Buy and drive the car you like.

* Remember that women are a disposable commodity no matter where they are from. Use them, dump them, and then get a hotter one each time. Rebuke “relationships” or girlfriends. Avoid single mothers completely. They are the absolute bottom of the barrel. Many of these bitches will try to trap you for child support. A woman has nothing to offer except that ugly smelly stinkhole that we call her cunt. She has nothing else to offer. Stupid guys are fooled into believing they have to buy it to use it.

* Focus on your career and making money. Try to become financially independent so you don’t ever have to take any shit from anyone. Consider living abroad for periods of time and fuck as many hot women as you can. Try scuba diving and just enjoy your life. Lots of material possessions just weigh your life down. Don’t buy more than you need.

I hope these life rules will help all the men who read this blog to have a great life!

ZTM

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That was good stuff, a worthy addition to the MGTOW Survival Guide...

MarkyMark

My Take on All Women Aren't Like That, by Outcastsuperstar

2010-04-02T18:39:00.000-07:00

Guys,

When Outcastsuperstar had his blog, he wrote a piece that I've long wanted to run on here. Unfortunately, by the time I was ready to do so, he'd already deleted his blog. Thankfully, he saved this most powerful piece of writing, and he posted it on Happy Bachelors. I've taken the liberty to copy & paste a post for the ages. Enjoy, Fellas...

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I wrote this back in 2008 and it's probably one of the best pieces I have ever written

Enjoy!

I have heard the arguments on both sides, one from people like Christopher in Oregon that all women are back stabbing bitches and I heard from many others that there are indeed good women out there and NOT all women are like this. I see a much bigger picture rather than proving all women are like this or aren’t like this.

I’m going to breakdown four possible scenarios which can happen and analyze the type of life a man can live under each scenario.

Scenario #1 you believe people like Christopher in Oregon that all women are like this and have adapted accordingly. Indeed Christopher in Oregon is right.

Scenario #2 you believe people like Christopher in Oregon that all women are like this and have adapted accordingly. However, Christopher in Oregon is wrong with his assessment that all women will betray you.

Scenario #3 you believe NOT all women are like this and will get married to that special person. Indeed you are right that you found a winner.

Scenario #4 you believe NOT all women are like this and will get married to that special person. However, that special person turned into a witch and will make your life a living hell.

Under scenario #1 you believe all women are like this and have adapted accordingly. You are indeed right.

Well as a result of not getting taken to the cleaners or having to support anyone but yourself, you can find the right balance between work and life. In other words you won’t have to work yourself in an early grave.

Not only that but you will have more discretionary income by staying single.

You can take yourself to ball games all the time.

You can take yourself to the best restaurants while being served by liberated waitresses.

You can engage in fun hobbies all the time. Examples would be hikes, golfing, playing video games, playing pool, going bowling, going to the gym etc.

Eventually, you can take yourself on Bachelor Vacations, or buy yourself expensive toys like Harley Davidson’s etc.

So in other words when it’s all said and done your going to have life full of luxuries and less stress by avoiding American Women and focusing on fun Bachelor Hobbies and taking fun Bachelor vacations.

Under scenario #2 you believe all women are like this and have adapted accordingly. However, you are wrong and there are indeed women who are loyal and won’t betray you.

The life a man can have can be read under scenario #1. The result is there are no consequences for being wrong and you can afford to be wrong here and still live a quality bachelor life.

Under scenario #3 you believe NOT all women are like this and will get married to that special person. You are indeed right and you found a winner.

In terms of being married you lucked out that the woman you married decided not to cash out on you but this doesn’t mean it’s necessarily going to be a happy marriage.

For starters you will be working yourself into an early grave. Meaning you will have to be working long hours for year after year until you fall over dead.

This means you will have no time for fun hobbies or have any money to finance them. This is because you will working for the rest of your life to pay the Mortgage, pay for all the family vehicles, pay for all of the children’s expenses which will include college in many cases, as well as paying for wife’s shopping sprees which she will be entitled to since she is the mother of your children. Also, there will be many doses of constant nagging where you won’t be able to enjoy any peace and quiet time to yourself.

In the end if all goes well on your death bed you’re grown up children may tell you that they love you as well as your wife. This doesn’t change the fact you had to slave away year after year in order to keep things a float and you will have a very difficult time planning for retirement. At least you lucked out that your girl wasn’t like that and you didn’t have to go through the Feminazi Court System.

Scenario # 4 you believe NOT all women are like this, my girl is different and will get married to this special person. However, you were wrong and that special person after marriage turned into a witch who will make your life a living well and will see to it that she is going to get here ‘due’ through the Feminazi Court System.

Ouch! This is going to hurt! It’s because of this scenario why I tell my readers there better off jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge than signing a Marriage Contract.

You can expect to get hit with a false domestic violence abuse charge, which means you will get arrested and you will be kicked out of your own home. You will have to pay for your attorney fees and her attorney fees for a divorce you never initiated in the first place. You will have to pay a high amount of Alimony and Child Support payments. You will lose your house but will have to keep paying the mortgage payments. Your ex-wife will manipulate your children where you are seen as the villain and will hate you. Also there is something called imputed income. A judge bases the percentage of child support payments and alimony payments based on ‘potential earnings’, NOT how much you actually make. Many times you will owe more money than you actually make! If you fail to make the payments your licenses will get revoked and you will get thrown in jail.

Do I agree with Christopher in Oregon’s analysis that every single woman in the planet will cash out on her husband if given the opportunity? The answer is NO! I have a mother who grew up in the pre-feminist era who is a wonderful traditional lady, also I have two extremely religious older sisters who believed sex before marriage is a deadly sin and divorce is very bad. Do I recommend that it worth taking a shot at scenario #3 just because every single woman in the planet is not like that? The answer is a big fucking NO! Even if all women aren’t like this, you will have a hard time determining between a good woman and a witch until it’s too late. This is because when a witch is on the prowl she is going to act like a very sweet woman who would never consider betraying you. It’s not until after you got married whether you know you got yourself a good woman or a witch. Because once a witch knows she got you by the balls her true colors will come out but by then it’s too late. When a woman argues that we're not all like this, as of today she may be right. However, the key word is TODAY. That doesn’t mean 5-7 years later she will be a virtuous woman. Women do change and it’s not for the better especially when they know they will get a big divorce settlement if the marriage doesn’t go the way she wants it to go.

My view is a man would have to be clinically insane to get married in the United States or in the Anglo sphere. The fact is since radical feminism has taken hold the vast majority of women aren’t suited for marriage and no longer have the qualities which would be desirable for men, all they have to offer is sex and that is no longer appealing once they start aging (Mid 20’s and beyond). Now there have been multiple news articles which states 60% of American/Western wives have sex with men who are NOT their husbands. It’s very rare for modern women these days to provide their husbands with home cooked meals and keeping a clean house. The divorce rate is well over 50% with 70% being initiated by women. In my home state California the divorce rate is between 70-80%.

If a man is scarred about living alone and is in need of a loyal companion, he should go adopt a dog. It’s not by accident that dogs are called a man’s best friend.

Having analyzed all four possible scenarios I have concluded that scenarios 1&2 are much better than 3&4. Given the times we are living in today although I personally may not agree with Christopher in Oregon’s thesis that all women are like this, however I have no choice but to assume that all women are indeed like the way Christopher in Oregon describes them to be. Now is it fair to assume Christopher’s thesis is the correct one while deep down knowing it could be wrong? The answer is NO! Just like it’s not fair good hard working get treated like shit by 21 century modern day American Women, a man can get booted from his home on false allegations or get booted because his wife filed for no fault divorce, have to pay alimony, child support, his and her attorney fees on a divorce he never initiated, and have his children taken away from him with the children’s mother training his children that he is the villain and she is the victim. As a result, even if Christopher’s thesis is proven wrong a man can still live a quality bachelor life (scenario #2) where there are no consequences for being wrong with this assessment. Even if all women aren’t like this and a man believes his girl is different (scenario #3), he will still be working himself into an early grave. However, if he is wrong and his girl was indeed like the majority of the 21 Century Modern Day American Women, he will end up in scenario #4 where life as he knows it will be over. There will be no second chances for being wrong, you are finished! As radical as Christopher’s thesis may seem, at least if a man believes Christopher's thesis he won’t ever have to live life under scenario #4. As men get older many will realize scenario #2 is better than scenario #3.

It’s pointless to argue this with Women because they don’t seem to get it (at least they pretend not to get it). They think all they have to do is argue all women aren’t like this and men will still get married but they are missing the bigger picture. Many of us bachelors are perfectly content with letting women declare victory while they now have to support themselves where they too will get to see what it’s like working themselves into an early grave. At the same time we bachelors won’t have to work as many hours long term since we won’t have to support a family or financially support a divorce. We understand it’s much more economical not to marry, but rather indulge in fun hobbies take bachelor vacations and don’t have to put up with any more bullshit with women where we can enjoy our peace.

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OS is a wise, young man. The Force is STRONG with that one! His approach has been mine too; I dare say that it's the approach of a number of men. While we know that there are decent women out there, the safe & prudent course of action is to assume that they're all like Christopher in Oregon says they are; the safe course is to assume that a woman is your enemy until proven otherwise, and to govern one's self accordingly. Have a good night now...

MarkyMark

Women Are Like Hand Grenades, by Happy Ghost

2010-03-28T17:13:00.001-07:00

Guys,

Happy Ghost was a regular on DGM 2.0. Since DGM was discontinued, he's become a member of the new, MGTOW forum. It was on there that HG posted THIS beauty...

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I attended my pal's kid's birthday party today. One of my pal's friends was there, and he has a new girl. They mentioned to this chick that I'm a ghost... didn't use the word, but described the idea. She immediately started questioning me... why?

I mentioned that marriage is a bad risk. She trotted out the "not all girls are like that" line, which I nicely handled with the hand grenade analogy (here's a box of hand grenades, choose one you think is a dud, then hold it and pull the pin and see if you were right or not). There's no way to know WHAT kind of girl you have until you're committed and it's too late to avoid being destroyed. Therefore, there can be women who are "not like that", but unfortunately it's irrelevant. Not all hand grenades are "like that" (meaning they explode), and there ARE duds... but because the duds can look just like the live ones, you'd have to be crazy to pick one and commit to finding out.

She rolled her eyes and basically said that if you don't know the girl by THEN (marriage time), then you're clueless. I replied that women can be master actresses, and you can only get to know the "real them" if they allow you to see it before the wedding, which many do not. And girls acting good look identical, in all respects, to girls who are REALLY good. So, there's just no way to know until it's too late.

I then explained that Marriage 2.0 is far different from Marriage 1.0 (and yes, I did use the numbers, maybe their usage will spread), and that in Marriage 2.0, the woman holds almost all the cards, and the guy holds almost none.

She immediately trotted out the "bitter" shaming tactic, but she did it subtly. "Were you married before?" I said no. "Were you in a relationship that went bad?" I again said no. "Then how do you know all this?" I smiled and said, "By observing all my male friends suffering and being destroyed because of this, and by reading all the changes in marriage and divorce laws over the last 40 years, straight out of the law books, and by watching precedent be set in courtrooms. I learned by observing, instead of by personal experience, thank god."

Silence. "They're not all like that" was blown out of the water. So was "you're just bitter". She had nothing much left in her arsenal.

Then she inquired how long I've been like this, and indicated that surely it's not a sustainable choice. Then my friends told her how long it's been since I dated or had a relationship... which is many, many years now. I grinned right at her, smoking a big cigar, drinking a microbrew, and looking happy as hell with myself and my life. Not sustainable, my ass, dearie.

This seemed to really freak her out. She mentioned how she had a female friend who couldn't find a good man, and complained about it all the time... a single mother! I stayed quiet on that one (didn't want to get too confrontational, after all).

What really seemed to spook her is that her boyfriend was sitting right next to her when I said all this, absorbing this unique perspective of mine (he already knew about me, but she probably didn't know he knew). I'm sure she wasn't too happy with me speaking such ideas with him sitting there, because I'll bet she's going to try to get his head in the marriage noose soon.

That was fun. She asked if I'd ever consider dating and getting married, and I told her that if the social and legal systems reverted to how they used to be in the 1950's and before, when a man had a fair chance at a good marriage and the laws were much more equal, only then would I consider it. Returning to the hand grenade analogy, I said that back then, unwittingly choosing a live one that looked like a dud might've gotten you a badly bruised hand, but today, it destroys you. I then said that I was quite sure that fairness would never be restored in my lifetime, therefore I will simply not participate, and many other men won't, either.

She didn't have a lot to say after that. It was pretty beautiful.

If more of them hear this, while their girlfriends (and perhaps they themselves) are whining about not being able to find a man, perhaps they'll put two and two together.

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That's a good analogy, isn't it? A live hand grenade and a dud look exactly alike one another, but you cannot differentiate them without doing damage to yourself. Women are the same way; the bad ones look the same as the good ones do, act like they do, talk like they do, etc. From where we men sit, how can we tell them apart? Well, that's easy; since 99.999999% of the women out there are feminazi skanks, one can operate under the assumption that ALL women are bad, and he'll probably be right! The few women who aren't like that got snapped up years ago, so it's pointless to look for one. Until next time...

MarkyMark

Irlandes on Child Support Laws in the USSA

2010-03-28T17:03:00.000-07:00

Guys,

I was reading some posts over on the DGM forum, because I hadn't been there in a while. My time is limited, and I'm a moderator over on Mancoat. Therefore, I spend most of my time on Mancoat. Still, I like to visit HB and DGM when I can. Anyway, Irlandes had this EXCELLENT post on child support in modern Amerika. He discusses what it means, and it means slavery for men. If the definition of slavery is compulsory labor for somene else's economic benefit, then we truly do have slavery in Amerika today. Read this, and remember-DO NOT GET MARRIED!

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Here is some training on child support law for Valerie, and perhaps for her dad.

Child support laws are based on the legal requirement for all parents to support their children. If you or your dad don't know this, get a good Law Review. I did.

Sounds good in theory, but in practice it doesn't work like that. And, it works so unlike that, that child support law is essentially slavery in the US.

Here is why.

A married man can make decisions on how to spend money. If he gives his wife money for the kids, he can demand proof the money was spent on the kids, and he can decide what to pay for. Child support payers cannot do this, nor do women have to prove the money was spent on the kids.

No, it's worse than that. She can openly and proudly admit she uses the money on herself or on children that are not his, and he has no legal recourse. Thus, legally, child support is alimony, and if the mother wishes to use it on the kids, she can. Likewise, if she tells the kids they have to get a job to buy their own clothes for school, she can, and can spend the money on Victoria's Secret, and he has no recourse.

Next, a married man, if he loses his job, the family has to cut back to try to get by. The married man is not responsible for toys and cell phones and gas money for kid's cars when he is unemployed. And, cutting back means he has less debt when he does find work. No new bicycles for now. No trips to Aruba now. If necessary, no candy bars for now. No new shoes. No new clothes. Shop at Salvation Army Thrift shop.

A child support payer gets no relief for being unemployed. The bill goes on with interest in some states, even while he is lying in the hospital with both legs cut off with a chain saw. The married man has no accumulated debt.

A married man can choose not to pay for his kids college education. It matters not that most folks do. A married man has a choice. He can say he is tired of supporting the kid who now is an adult. He can say he does not approve of the kid's behavior and thinks it's good for him to earn his way, or get a job. Or, he can say he has been working too hard and at his age, he wants to cut back on hours worked, or move to a different job that he would like to try, but which will make less money. Or, he can say he doesn't believe in college.

Or, also he can say he simply doesn't want to pay for college, and no one can do a thing to him.

I know this personally, because when my daughter finished high school I told her I was not going to help her unless she absolutely needed it. She had to work and pay her own way. She did, and finished her college degree in 1991 with no debt as well as no help from me.

So, this is a case where child support laws do not merely reflect the obligation of all parents to support their kids.

I knew a cop who was divorced, and since he had to pay considerable child support, took a second job to try to make a decent income after c/s. His ex- immediately took him back to court, to receive her share of his second job. So, he took a third job to try to have a substantial income. She took him back to court and the court ordered a part of that second job to be paid as c/s

After a year or so, he was exhausted from 80 or 90 hour weeks, and wanted to cut back those two jobs. Nope the judge told him. You cannot reduce your income voluntarily, or better said, you can increase your income voluntarily, in which case your c/s payments go up, but no matter what, you cannot cut back your child support payments once they have gone up.

A married man can change jobs as he wishes. He can move his family to a cheaper place to get by on less money when he voluntarily changes to a lower paying job. He can also reduce his hours if he wants, with no explanation to anyone.

If a married man becomes unemployed, and falls behind on goodies for the kids, he does not have to repay it later when he goes to work. That is, he can cut back and they have to accept it. Child support payments based on school trips and luxuries and new bicycles that kids of unemployed dads have to forego, for a child support payer become a blood debt, and there is no relief ever.

Gosh, how could I forget the big one? The basis of child support payments is that all parents are obliged to support their kids. But, millions of women sit on their fat rear ends, make no attempt to support their kids at all, while the taxpayers give her lots of money in cash and benefits, then tell the father he not only must support those kids, but must pay the taxpayers back for their payments to Ms. Lazy Arse. And, toss him in jail if he loses his job and can't keep up.

Wait. There' s more. No mentally healthy married man will deliberately neglect one of his kids while buying luxuries for another. Yet, child support laws do not make provisions for a man to support his new kids while he owes child support for the older ones. In fact, not even necessities for newer kids.

How about Mommy? Um, she can split her income between all her kids. She can use his child support money for kids that aren't even his. If custodial mothers were treated like c/s payers, she would have to put new kids by other men in unheated rooms, and feed them nothing, with his c/s money.

Another big one I forgot. If a married man is unemployed and accumulates a big debt, he can file bankruptcy, and in many cases today, he will perhaps still be required to pay what he can, based on his income. Child support payers get no relief at all. There are a lot of men who had periods of unemployment, and fell behind due to failure to reduce their orders. Today, in their 60's and beyond, just the accumulated interest is all that can be taken out of their income, they will be forced to pay unto death. That would never happen to a married man.

Child support is slavery in the US.

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Fellas, that is reason ENOUGH to avoid women and marriage! Don't do it! For that matter, don't cohabit, either; cohabiting women, thanks to changes in the law, are being given the same 'rights' as married women. Translation: now, your live-in girlfriend can fuck you over the same as if she were married to you!

Whatever you do, Gentlemen, do NOT sire children! Do not have sex with women, because having sex means that there's a chance she can have a baby; that's a byproduct of sex, remember? For that matter, don't be on women's radar, period; avoid ANY AND ALL ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY INTERACTIONS WITH WOMEN! I can't emphasize that enough! Why? Give me a minute, and I'll explain...

A woman can have sex. She can get knocked up by her bad boy lover. Then, knowing that her boyfriend, Lenny the Meth Chemist, doesn't have a legitimate, documented income stream, she'll put YOUR name down as the father. Guess what?! The state's going to come after YOU for the money! Thanks to 'welfare reform', a woman applying for benefits must put down the father's name, so the state can take the money out of his ass. They don't care if they get the wrong guy, either; they just want their money, and they want it now. Well, if a woman doesn't know who you are, then your name won't come to mind when she's filling out the welfare forms. She'll put some other sucker's name down. That sucks for him, but your whole objective here is to remain unscathed by the system; you can best do that by staying off women's radar screens.

I'd like to thank Irlandes for sharing his thoughts on DGM. He's been around, and he knows what's what. Remember guys, if you're thinking of getting married, DON'T! Read this post repeatedly until you get it through your thick heads that: 1) you don't get married to a woman; 2) you don't live with them; 3) don't have sex with them; 4) do NOT, under any circimstances, have children with her; and 5) don't be visible to women at all! Let them do their thing, and you do yours. Let some other schlub be her victim, not you. Have a good day now...

MarkyMark

Don't Cohabit, by Eternal Bachelor

2010-03-28T16:56:00.000-07:00

Guys,

This is the one Eternal Bachelor classic I've been looking for! I was copying from the .pdf file I have of his old blog, but that was a pain in the ass; for many reasons, it was a huge PITA. Now that I have bookmarked the URL to his archives, it's a lot easier to find, read, and copy his old posts. Yes, I have a link on my list, so you can visit this precious, valuable resource for yourself.

Anyway, I've been sick the last couple of days, so I've been staying in. I've been drinking lots of hot tea with NATURAL honey; I'm talkin' about the REAL stuff straight from the hive! There is something in the natural honey that's almost miraculous in its healing power. One, my bad knees are hardly sore or stiff anymore; I can actually think about lacing up my skates, and indulge in a passion that I thought I'd have to leave forever. Secondly, when I fall ill with a cold, the natural honey helps heal me quicker and better than ANY medicine ever had-all without a doctor's visit and the associated copays-yeah, Baby!

So, if you're wondering about my increased, above normal output of posts, that's why. I simply haven't been able to do much else. That's okay though; I've had the time to find posts that spoke to me, and share them with my readers. Eternal Bachelor's original blog was chock full of great posts, and I think that my boys would not only enjoy them, but benefit from them too.

This post here is about how cohabitation, aka shacking up or living together without the 'benefit' of marriage (gag!), will no longer protect a man and his assets. You see, over in Britain they've passed laws allowing women to take a man to the cleaners WITHOUT being married; IOW, the preventative measure that men have taken to avoid getting butt fucked in divorce court will no longer work, because live-in girlfriends now have the SAME RIGHTS AS WIVES! Did you get that? Do you understand the enormity of this development?

But MarkyMark, that's Britain, not America. That may be true, but there are some small details you overlooked. One, the English speaking countries share common traditions and laws; what happens in one will often happen in another English speaking country. Two, because men are boycotting marriage in ever greater numbers, the divorce industry has to find another revenue stream; they have to find a way to screw men out of their money. What to do? Well, you expand the laws, of course; you write them to apply to unmarried people as well. What does this all mean? Look for these laws to arrive on American shores in the near future; either that, or a key court case will be adjudicated in such a way as to allow this sort of thing. Without further ado, here's another EB classic...

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Don’t co-habit

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16 October 2006
Cohabiting couples to win legal rights if relations break down

Britain’s two million cohabiting couples are to be given legal rights to claim a share of property and income when the relationship breaks down.
Unmarried couples could be ordered to sell their homes, pay lump sums to each other or share pensions if they split under controversial Government reforms.

There was no doubt that this would go through. Women are whining that few men will marry, meaning it’s harder for them to orchestrate a legal theft of a man’s property and future earnings, and when women whine, governments swiftly act. Plus the family lawyers are panicking as their revenue falls.

Opposition MPs and family campaigners said the sweeping changes - expected to apply to those who have lived together for as little as two years - would further undermine the institution of marriage.

Plus it’ll undermine co-habiting of course. This is what happened in Australia when they introduced similar laws; co-habitation has plummeted and more than a quarter of women are living alone or with parents, and moaning about it the whole time. “Boo-hoo, men are afraid of being financially raped…I mean, er, committment and intimacy.” The same thing will happen here.
The important thing is that as many men are made aware of this law as possible to save them from foolishly letting a woman move in and thinking that, so long as they don’t marry, they’ll be okay. They need to konw that that’s not the case.

But constitutional affairs minister Harriet Harman said the number of people living together outside marriage would double in the next 25 years - and insisted yesterday they needed a new set of legal rights.

I wonder whether these politicians are actually aware of the fact that the dropping marriage rates are because men are avoiding the risk of financial ruin, and that we’ll avoid co-habiting as well now, but are just deliberately refusing to acknowledge this, or are they genuinely that thick that they don’t realise.
Oh well, sensible men could see this coming a few years off and have avoided co-habitation as well as marriage, whilst other men will have booted their girlfriends out. More men will follow. A few women may enrich themselves with this law if they’ve lived with a boyfriend for more than two-years, but most women will lose out and face a future of living alone. So will us men, of course, but we can handle that. We kinda prefer it anyway. Women, on the other hand, seem to freak out at the idea of growing old without anyone. Plus us men, even in our forties and beyond, can go out and score with a younger woman for a quick fling, whilst women past forty generally can’t, and will struggle to do so past thirty in many cases. That’s assuming they’ll be happy with just being used for sex, which many don’t seem to be. Oh dear. Tough shit. They should have thought about that before supporting - or, at the very least, not speaking out against - all these divorce and co-habitation laws.

Financially supporting a cohabiting partner is not a legal duty, while each married partner has a legal duty to support the other, including after a split.

In other words:

Financially supporting a cohabiting girlfriend is not a legal duty, while husband has a legal duty to support his wife, including after a split.

Seriously, why do they even bother with this gender-neutral language? Oh yeah, it’s so us men might think there’s some chance we’ll get a fair hearing and some justice when Big Mother government gets involved in private relationships when they end.

Unmarried fathers also have no automatic rights or duties to their children, unlike in marriage.

And what automatic rights to our children do we have in marriage? Fuck all. Maybe visitation, bu that’s neither automatic, good enough or even enforced. We have duties - i.e. to provide mummy/child support - but not rights.

Miss Harman revealed that Government actuaries forecast that by 2031, 7.6 million people will cohabit and less than 20 million people will be married. ‘Cohabiting couples will constitute more than a third of the total,’ she said.

Wrong. The cohabitation rate will plummet as fast as marriage has. There’ll still be men foolish enough to cohabit, just as there’ll be men foolish enough to marry, but more and more will wake up and avoid both.

Settlements designed to give couples a ‘clean break’ would be favoured. A girlfriend left on her own with a man’s children, for instance, would get a cash sum and be likely to keep their house outright, rather than being awarded regular payments.

With “a man’s children”?! WTF? So now children are our’s then? Strange how they’re women’s when it comes to custody, or who gets the final (and only) say in aborting them, but when it comes to supporting them, they’re a man’s, and he must pay to support their mother…I mean, them. Also, what about a girlfriend who steals a man’s children by ditching him on a whim? Oh, wait, I guess she’ll still be counted as being “left on her own” and will get the house and a nice big lump sum of his cash.

Couples are also likely to be given the chance to sign an opt-out from the laws, though these could be overruled by the courts.

Typical. Opt-outs need to be signed by both the man and woman, and women ain’t gonna sign them, and if they do, the court can just throw it out like they do pre-nuptials. So make sure every man about to cohabit knows about this. Too many guys get married with pre-nups thinking they’re legally binding when they’re not. We don’t want more of our brothers foolishly thinking the same thing about opt-outs.
One dissenting voice makes a sensible point:

‘The inevitable result will be more people living alone. We already have one of the largest proportions of one-person households.’

A woman in the comments section echoes this:

Far from being desperate to have the same ‘rights’ as married couples, when people realise that cohabiting means signing away your property,they will just stop living together.

Of course, next men will be obliged to support a woman they dated for a few months, even without living together, so we’ll avoid that too. The more laws introduced to make it easier for women to take our assets, the more we’ll avoid them. Even just having consensual sex with one who happens to have had a drink - or later claims in court she had had a drink - will soon make you guilty of rape by default and thus eligible for a long prison sentence.
Women are going to be very, very lonely in decades to come. Oh well, their problem, not ours.
posted by Duncan Idaho @ 5:30 PM
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At 6:07 PM, Loki on the run said…
When a society has lots of unattached (unburdened) young males, you have lots of potential for trouble.
These young males organize into groups and start causing trouble and generating violence …
Women and children often get hurt and die in such violence …
Sometimes you have to be careful how you bend and twist the rules that a society has developed over time …
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At 6:41 PM, ColdHammer said…
I think it’s hilarious that the gov’t is going to appropriate this kind of “money making-law” onto the people, er, I mean men, excuse me, without the realization of ‘what will happen.” No wonder marriage rates continue to plummet down to nothingness when its all for nothing in the end. Why get raped? What’s the whole point?
What’s funnier is that governments enact such retarded measures because “they” don’t like how well-off single men are currently doing w/o marriage. Of course, men know! Men always will counter-attack! Every time! Men will always adapt to the situation and time it will be by staying single which results in more women living alone for the rest of their lives.
Just look at the article’s COMMENTS section - men of all types stating, NO, announcing their claim to bachelorhood! It’s funny how the gov’t has failed to stop meddling into peoples’ relationships and personal affairs is long overdue.
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At 7:38 PM, Anonymous said…
You analyzed the consequences well, let be say some words about it.
When men avoid marriage and cohabit more frequently, obviously children may be born.
At the moment fathers pay and have no rights to those children, but at least they retain their property.
From a conservative point of view, the fact that usually the mother will leave the house poses a problem: she is not married, she lacks protection.
Marriage used to protect the interests of both wife and husband. The husband was sure to have a caring wife, who did her duty, brought up his children and did the housework. The wife had a husband who worked and got money.
This system serves the interest of father, mother and children best and we know that many women do not want to work even so they could do it.
Divorce laws have destroyed the sense of duty of women, thus men avoid marriage.
From a conservative point of view a pregnant woman should marry and remain married her whole life.
This simple solution is not practised, instead they decide that cohabiting equals marriage.
They do not see, that the problem with marriage is the lack of sense of duty of women and security of a man’s interest.
They try to transform cohabiting into marriage, not seeing that marriage itself is destroyed and the root of the problem.
What will be the consequences?
Despite divorce laws many men still marry, because most do not know the law, they believe in justice and fidelity.
For this reason there are still many men who do marry.
Cohabitation ist not regarded as a commitment by men. Young men will warn each other quickly not to cohabit too long.
The “Cohabitation-Strike” will come much faster than the marriage strike.
And together with the cohabitation Strike the awareness of the injustices in marriage will grow and it will enhance the marriage strike, too.
The legislation heightens the burden on men’s shoulders so much, that the system itself strikes back.
These are those ugly things men have to endure:
“A girlfriend left on her own with a man’s children, for instance, would get a cash sum and be likely to keep their house outright, rather than being awarded regular payments.”
Duncan, you are so used to it, you did not comment it: she will keep his house.
The girlfriend keeps his house. In this case she has children, but of course the same applies if she does not have any children.
This is gross discrimination of men: why does she have the children, why does she have the house and not he?
We get used to it and the system will not bear itself for long.
It ist typical: a law (divorce) is introduced that seems fanciful in the beginning. Women are still treated as victims and as someone who needs protection, so they get alimony.
Then people avoid marriage and its pitfalls, because they realise that divorce laws promote divorce.
Then cohabitation increases and needs to be treated as divorce.
Now hopefully it will accelerate and soon, less people will cohabit.
New laws will be introduced until it becomes obvious that the divorce itself is the root of the problem.
Sadly I doubt that people will make divorce illegal fast enough and marriage mandatory for all pregnant women.
Even in this case, one problem will remain: women who do not work or do not get enough children in comparison to a man who works his whole life.
One thing is sure: people will stop cohabiting and will stop marriage faster.
It might not raise the awareness of flagrant discrimination during divorce in the media and legislation but it will certainly raise it among men.
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At 7:41 PM, Hutch said…
Duncan Idaho, brings the bare knuckles truth to your doorstep, but why does government insist on making fighting and stealing so rewarding to couples? (and now gays too).
If you could get, say half of what the typical court orders stated, then couples would have the incentive to make relationships work and not the otherway around!
I am writing from my mountain cabin, where my expenses are low, and thank-god, I own this place. Sure I have no running water electricity etc.., but I have distanced myself from the femimatrix which wants to financially ass-rape me every second of the day. In five minutes I will be working on my storage shed, preparing my roof. This shed is where I will put all my tools and important things that I have managed to hang on to since the femimatrix took away my family, two years ago.
Thanks to Duncan Idaho, he Ought to be the next Prime Minister.
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At 7:42 PM, Anonymous said…
The loneliness is not just a female problem. They need children and want a husband to stop working, but men, too, wish a caring wife who works dutifully and wish children.
The problem is much bigger.
The whole malaise is just due to the legalization of divorce. It makes marriage unsafe and unpredictable.
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At 7:48 PM, Anonymous said…
At the moment so many men are unaware of the dangers of marriage and children born to non married men.
They are unaware they laugh at men like me.
And then some get divorced and are surprised, they say they could not believe it, they did not know. But then it is too late.
Many men take marriage as a lifelong commitment, women can opt out and they know it or learn it fast.
Cohabitation is not seen as a lifelong commitment, so the new laws will raise awareness on the pitfalls of marriage itself.
Some people will still think that it is just to take away, pension, money, children and house (!) of a man, so that his girlfriend gets all, but these people will become a powerless minority.
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At 8:19 PM, nevo said…
I’m glad you brought up this subject.
Earlier today I was reading about “Breach of Promise” as suggested by one blogger.
I think I understood it correctly. If a man/woman break or bail out (use as appropiate), from this engagement, either party has a claim for compensation, which can extend to personal property.
In real terms it means that nobody has to go through the marriage charade to be able to have a claim on someone else property.
If the British government already has a law addressing unmarried couples, why on earth they bother with it?
Unless, they want to make sure of maximizing the havoc they want to create in a presently stable unmarried families.
Maximizing the effectiveness of the gold-digger’s charter by exacerbating the greedness in a break-up, more or less guarantee a country of single households in the future.
With the “Civil Partnership 2004″ Law, no one can afford even to have a lodger without a legal contract. Lest he’ll or she’ll be sued for his property claiming breakdown of their relationship when they leave.
The unending insanity of the modern politician will turn present society into a lone anthood colonies.
NEVO
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At 9:39 PM, Mamonaku187 said…
Men will avoid cohabiting like the plague.
Not to mention all the wimmin who will be at risk, being single and living alone.
With the way these relationship laws are going, a woman will be lucky to have any form of long term commitment in her lifetime.
But as you said, their problem, not ours.
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At 9:41 PM, Anonymous said…

ColdHammer said…
I think it’s hilarious that the gov’t is going to appropriate this kind of “money making-law” onto the people, er, I mean men, excuse me, without the realization of ‘what will happen.”
What’s funnier is that governments enact such retarded measures because “they” don’t like how well-off single men are currently doing w/o marriage.

Yep, this is it guys. The imminent “PENIS” tax in disguise.
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At 11:16 PM, Anonymous said…
On a personal level, i recently told my girlfriend that i didn’t want to buy a house together so she bought her own. We still had a relationship until i told her that i would never marry, have children or live with a woman because of the potential problems i could face if it all goes wrong.
I’m single again!!!
Would i rather be in a relationship…yes. Would she like to settle down, have a home with a husband and have children….yes.
It’s not likely to happen and as much as she resents me for it, it’s the government and feminism that has created this situation. It was ignorance that allowed me to get married, its knowledge that keeps me single.
Womens Aid have been going into schools to preach about domestic violence. Could you mens rights activists please go into schools and teach boys about the fate that awaits them?
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At 12:04 AM, mfsob said…
This just goes to show - women are stupid. They’re the ones pushing this load of bullshit, and once cohabitation laws have made a beachhead in jolly old England, it’s only a matter of time before they migrate over to the States. Sigh …
But then - they reap what they sow, and what an interesting crop it is going to be!
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At 12:24 AM, Anonymous said…
The Government wants to breed white Brits out.
You heard me right boys. They want whites, and those minorities who are Westernized, to be bred out by 1.0 per female birth rates.
If you have 100 people on an island, 50 men and 50 women, and they all couple up and have one kid apiece………………thats just 50 children in the next generation.
If the kids do it again…….25
If they 25 do it again……..12.5
100 makes 50
50 makes 25
25 makes 12.5
This math works in the millions.
The pinko/Godless/commie/Western Civilization government of England and the overclass HATE intelligent Westerners, and are trying to put enmity between the sexes to get you guys to breed yourselves out over the next 50-70 years. You must explain this to your women over there. That its all an ugly plot to destroy the British race and hand the Island over to a multi-culti menagerie led by the elite like the wage-slaves they will be.
These laws are EVIL. Evil people who hate the British have devised them. I hope you lads resist as best you can, but whatever you do………………explain to women patiently and in writing exactly what the consequences will be in 40 years or so when they are REALLY outnumbered by the Muslims.
Good luck
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At 12:28 AM, Anonymous said…
One possible solution I am thinking of is to only cohabit/marry a woman who is richer than me.
If the woman can bring assets and income to the table, it could be the woman taking the financial risk by getting married.
I know a lot of woman have worthless degrees (women’s studies and other such shit), and their “pink collar” jobs.
But there are plenty of women, at least that I know of, who have real degrees and decent careers.
So maybe us bachelors should become like women: demand that potential mates have a certain amount of wealth.
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At 12:43 AM, Playboy said…

RE: “Cohabitation is not seen as a lifelong commitment, so the new laws will raise awareness on the pitfalls of marriage itself.”

True. A guy who let his girlfriend move-in and then ended up in court when they broke-up is going to get a small taste of what divorce is like and likely will be less inclined to make that mistake again.
Then again, even wealthy men seen to dumb to figure it out after several divorces… how many wives have Trump and Hefner had?
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At 3:35 AM, Anonymous said…
There is going to be a whole new Extortion Industry cropping up out of this.
What is cohabiting? If she sleeps over 4 nights a week, but still gets her mail at her place is she cohabiting? The courts might rule yes.
Since there is not necessarily any public record of them living together what is to keep her from making up a story that she was “cohabiting” with a man? Litigate it until he settles on a support amount. And then repeat the process with another male.
This might turn into a whole new serial plunder occupation for females aided and abetted by the wheels of justice.
Sounds like you can’t even let them in your residence at any time else they will claim they were living there and describe the interior of your residence to “prove it”. May even find a way around that if they never set foot in your residence, but claim to have lived there they will insist the male changed the interior decoration after they broke up thereby “proving” her argument of cohabitation without a shred of proof.
The only way I can see around that is to never paint, recarpet, or otherwise improve the inside of your residence. That way if the little dear insists she lived with you, concocts some phony description of your residence since her description won’t match your residence it will be impossible for cupcake to assert that you remodeled to “defraud her” because you will still have the same 10 year old carpet, furniture, and unpainted walls. It’s very hard to remodel something to make it look rundown.
This also gets into the whole art of asset protection. For example, list your address as living with your parents, but have a condo or other residence owned by a corporation or trust where your name does not show up. If she claims she slept with you she would have to convince the court that your mother allowed some tramp to sleep with her son under the parent’s roof. Would pit female against female in the courtroom. Not very pretty. Hiss! Hiss!
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At 7:47 AM, unpleasant bitter git said…

Anonymous 9:41 PM said… “Yep, this is it guys. The imminent “PENIS” tax in disguise.”

If they bring in a “penis” tax then I want a rebate!
Mines only 2 inches long, at least thats what feminists keep telling me anyway.
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At 8:13 AM, Captain Zarmband said…
Have you thought about the government’s real agenda here. They know that the more divorce laws they pass the less men marry and they also know that this will apply to cohabitation once these new laws are passed. I sure that this is the whole point. This government has overseen an explosion in the number of single-mothers since they took office. Fewer and fewer children are being raised in the traditional family (i.e. husband and wife) and more are born into chaotic, single-mother households which are dependent on state support. These people are easily controllable by the government, since they are totally dependent on state benefits. The result is that the government is increasing its influence and power as fewer families are independent. When you get down to it these laws are all about the government controlling people’s lives.
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At 9:27 AM, Thunderchild said…
Duncan
You should ‘de-construct’ the embedded rape article too. You would have a field day !
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At 9:34 AM, Thunderchild said…
To Nevo
Apologies Nevo, deeper investigation indicated that ‘Breach of Promise’ was abolished in an obscure clause of an Act of Parliament in 1970. It appears, however, with this set of rights that the concept has returned - with a vengeance !
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At 12:15 PM, evil woman said…
1 - Get a pre-nup
2 - Alway use a condom
That should stop things getting out of hand. It’s easy!
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At 12:56 PM, Anonymous said…

RE: “Since there is not necessarily any public record of them living together what is to keep her from making up a story that she was “cohabiting” with a man? Litigate it until he settles on a support amount. And then repeat the process with another male.”

That is true. At the moment legislators wish to achieve protection of mothers.
But mothers should be married and forced to honour the marriage.
This law does not just apply to cohabiting couple with children but to all of them.
Let’s compare it to false rape accusations: in most of the cases people believe the woman, because she ist weaker and needs protection.
Will most judges believe that a woman was cohabiting?
Certainly there is good chance.
Still it should be difficult for a woman to claim cohabitation if she still owns a home of her own.
What strikes me, is that she gets the house. It is argued that cohabiting couples buying a house together should have rights to it.
But this has always been so: if a group of people buy an asset, the asset is divided depending on the money that was brought in.
Certainly this law aims at women, the single mother that gets the children and the house is mentioned as if it was the normal case.
Certainly the child birth rate will fall even deeper.
Most people learn through experience:
a divorced man usually has children and is old.
A cohabiting man is young and without children. He will learn and tell his friends fast of the dangers of cohabiting and subsequently of marriage.
Discussions will go like this: “Why aren’t you living with your girlfriend in a house?”
“Don’t you know the new laws on cohabitation?”
“What new laws?”
“She gets your house, if you let her in.”
Some guys might use the looser bond between non-cohabiting couples for their own good through getting the girlfriend, but most good friends will hear and listen and take care of themselves.
And some will begin to talk of marriage because both begin to resemble strongly.
So young men will know the injustices of marriage in younger years.
It is sad, they do not want to abolish the main problem: divorce.
Divorce needs to be made illegal, because it is a breach of contract.
Divorce laws and benefits for people who do not want to work, for single mothers etc. make the birth rate plummet.
The effect of divorce laws is obvious: men get robbed of their assets, women do not get as many children as in long lasting marriages.
Social benefits make people lazy and take one major incentive for children: children guaranteed protection in old age.
Take away benefits, take away divorce and see marriage rate and birth rate climbing.
To avoid married women who do not get children and live off the husbands money it is necessary to make it her duty to work on her own or become pregnant.
One pregnancy is not enough, like the man who works until retirement she, too, would have to get more children.
I wouldn’t stand it to work full time and see my wife with just one child and not working on her own.
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At 1:34 PM, MS said…

“Of course, next men will be obliged to support a woman they dated for a few months, even without living together, so we’ll avoid that too.”

Then it’ll be a woman we dated for a couple of months, then ones we dated for a month, then ones we went for a few dates with and before you know it, the whole thing starts to look an awful lot like prostitution.
If the feminists continue this bs much longer, I can see it getting to a point where large numbers of guys become so pissed off they either emigrate or join with the Muslims and vote for Sharia …or both. Just desserts indeed!
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At 2:38 PM, HAWKEYE said…
yes! we have had these laws in Australia for some time now and yes! all the things you predict have come to pass,however one thing that did come out of it that is not mentioned is that pre nups became legally binding .
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At 2:43 PM, HAWKEYE said…
anonymous 11.16pm
i hope you went her for your 1/2 of her house
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At 3:17 PM, Anonymous said…
This new law is a victory for men. It’s proof that the marriage strike is working. The divorce courts and lawyers are starting to panic as more men refuse to expose themselves to the scam they have turned marriage into. Now they have to cast their nets out a little farther each time to catch more unsuspecting men. This law will be the followed by more acts of legislative desperation along with increased howling that all men are evil for refusing to cooperate in their own destruction. This going to be so much fun to watch.
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At 4:31 PM, byrdeye said…
Why can’t we just keep relationships and financial mergers SEPARATE?!!!
They are NOT synonymous! And what happens if you room with a male friend for 2 years - he gets half too? WTF?!
Most women these days are lying opportunists - so the LAST thing we need is yet another golddigga law that rapes men over the coals! EFF THIS! EFF YOU BIG MAMA!!!
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At 4:45 PM, Davout said…

loki on the run said:
“When a society has lots of unattached (unburdened) young males, you have lots of potential for trouble.”

On a related tangent, India and China are going to be great test cases to analyze how countries adapt to accommodate lots of unmarried men.
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At 5:56 PM, Anonymous said…
Let me think a bit. What could we do to improve the situation of women?
Take a woman who is dating a guy. Isn’t the date a reason to expect his support?
Didn’t she stopped her career?
She hopes to get married, so if he does not he disappoints her.
The guy is abusing her patience. And so on.
They won’t make a law defining cohabitation as just dating.
But maybe they could make a tax for men to fight “inequalities”.
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At 7:39 PM, Viking said…

“A girlfriend left on her own with a man’s children, for instance, would get a cash sum and be likely to keep their house outright, rather than being awarded regular payments.”

I’m calling bulls&!# on this one. If there are no kids involved, maybe he won’t get hit with an alimony like payment, maybe he will just be lucky enough to only loose his house and all his savings. On the other hand if there are kids he is going to be paying at least child support, in addition to all the above.

“it’s only a matter of time before they migrate over to the States. Sigh …”

It is already here if you count the common law marriage laws of a lot of states. Here in Texas all you have to do is be living together and present yourself as married to an outsider in some way. Example, if, after moving your girlfriend in, early that week, she introduces you to a friend, at a party that weekend, as her husband and you simply shrug an mumble, like most guys do in an awkward situation, and don’t directly challenge the claim, your married. That’s it. Done. Technically there is a third part. There has to be at least a verbal agreement between you and her that you are married but of course the “presenting yourself as married” acts as evidence for that agreement. Another way you can “present yourselves” is if she signs anything using your her first name and your last and, again, you don’t dispute it as soon as you find out. Of course it could be tricky to prove that you didn’t know about it. Also putting any bills in both names or giving her access to any of your bank accounts. Even setting up a shared “food fund”.
Pretty soon just speaking to a single woman in public is go to be enough to make you married.
Be strong, stay single.
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At 8:09 PM, Viking said…

“This might turn into a whole new serial plunder occupation for females aided and abetted by the wheels of justice.”

It just dawned on my why they would favor a single payout. If a woman gets remarried she looses her alimony. What is the equivalent when you are just living together. It doesn’t do her any good to get a $1000 a month if she is going to loose it as soon as she shacks up with someone else. But if you get a lump sum you can move on to your next victem right away and not loose a cent. And here the polits are trying to convince the guys that this is a good thing, a way of limiting the damage. Bullsh!#
Be Strong, Stay Single!
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At 8:28 PM, Viking said…

evil woman said…
1 - Get a pre-nup - easily overruled and completely useless if you do have kids.
2 - Alway use a condom - sometimes fail and she can still cry rape.

Be Strong, Stay Single!
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At 8:51 PM, pete said…
Both women and men are going to be very lonely in decades to come. Its time to start pushing men to overcome society’s view that men hanging out together is gay while women hanging out together is empowering.
The double standard (I don’t know if you have it in the US) is that a party without any women in it is a failure, even if it is about manly things that a woman would not be interested in. So you have boys bribing females to attend LAN parties with attention, money and alcohol - all in order to not appear to be a “loser”.
Its very telling that a geeky girl is placed on a pedestal by most guys (who are “normal” and thus geeky) while no girl wants to have anything to do with a nerdy boy.
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At 10:17 PM, Viking said…

“The double standard (I don’t know if you have it in the US) is that a party without any women in it is a failure”

A party on Friday or Saturday night, sure, it would be the same. A party on Sunday afternoon or Monday night during football season, not at all. Unfortunately football season doesn’t last all year. I am seeing a lot more lan or console gameing nights though. Still mostly just among the nerds. The non-nerds? More common to work on something together, like putting up a shed or rebuilding a car engine. I try to do a bit of both to keep a balance though lately I have been wasting a lot of time in the World of Warcraft.
After three years in an absolutely miserable marriage and not even making it out with so much as a TV let alone a computer, I have only in the last month gotten a new computer to call my own and not an office laptop loner. For the first time in 4 and half years I am playing one of the MMO and man they have come a long way. I use to feel like I was wasting the opportunity to find a nice girl to settle down with and start a family. You know, the whole, why are you wasting your time on a virtual world and a vicarious life, you should live in the real world. I just done feel guilty anymore. I have no desire to marry again and I don’t even want to take a chance with dating and getting accused of something. I am single and celibate and that’s just fine. I do what I enjoy when I want too. Maybe the money ain’t real but at least that slinky looking dark elf isn’t going to take it all when she is ready to move on.
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At 12:10 AM, Youngbuck said…
Hey Viking, some of the best times in my life were at LAN parties fragging away at UT2K4. It ain’t just nerds man, although I am one.
I’m just happy to be able to do what I want, when I want. A friend of mine wanted to get the PS3, but his girlfriend found out it was $600 and said she forbids him from spending his money on it. He’s not even supposed to hang out with me and the rest of us, because we are a bad influence, according to her.
That’s what happens when you cohabitate with a woman, they control your life and takeover your stuff. His 24″ widescreen lcd monitor? Gone. It was too wide for her. Oh, keep in mind, this is a girl that buys $800 designer purses, but she forbids him from spending his own money on what he wants.
If this is happiness, I want no part of it.
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At 1:18 PM, NYMOM said…
I think the approach England is taking is very very fair.
An earlier article regarding this clearly stated it was mainly going to be used to level the playing field for live-in couples with children. AND that two people living together with no kids, both working, even if one was making less then the other wouldn’t really be impacted under the law. Unless one half of the live-in couple could show where they left their job to help the other person’s career in some way.
Men brought this upon themselves by insisting never-married men be given the same rights to children as married ones, once paternity is established. So you know what: this is womens’ response. That we will then be given the same rights as wives to your financial assets…as two can play that game.
In spite of all your complaining, millions of never-married men have custody of children…here in the US they comprise 30% of the custodial fathers pool…and I assume, since England is very similar to the US, that it’s the same thing there…
So you shot yourselves in the foot by trying to get more advantage for men then you deserve and this is the result.
Good…
I’m going to put a post on my blog this weekend celebrating this victory as an example of the state leveling the playing field finally after allowing greedy men to run amuck in society for decades…
People finally got fed up with their brothers all working the system as usual, and, btw, it was probably other men who were mainly fed up with you and took these steps…as most of your legislative bodies (again just like the US) are probably composed of men. So don’t kid yourself that this was just women doing this…
Again, good.
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At 1:25 PM, NYMOM said…

“Women are going to be very, very lonely in decades to come…”

Really.
Somehow I doubt that.
I actually found that my dog (deceased about two years now) was a far better, loyal, friendlier and more trusting companion to me then my ex-husband…
So you see, you are very easily replaced.
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At 3:03 PM, Anonymous said…

You know, the whole, why are you wasting your time on a virtual world and a vicarious life, you should live in the real world.

Of course that’s the whole point. The “real world”, at least that co-opted by the Gynosphere is a fraud. You’re sold a bill of goods and enticed to marry a “nice girl” (***Oxymoron Alert***) then after 30 days of gestation her inner demon is released. At least in virtual worlds you can find enjoyment absent in the Gynosphere. Why venture into areas where everyone is set up to fuck you over? Where is the possible shred of logic in that??
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At 5:47 PM, Pete Patriarch said…
I guess nymom has never heard of child support, which DOES give women a license to breed on someone else’s dime.
Anyway, your colors are showing - you think that anything men do to somewhat equalize the playing field is somehow “seeking advantage.”
You’re a hypocrite, a liar and a proper cunt, and I can safely say that you are cut from the same cloth as your feminist sisters.
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At 6:37 PM, Anonymous said…
“NYMOM blabbed…”
I thought you promised to crawl back into your dumpster??
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At 9:51 PM, voodoojock said…
Shit, the only way you’re going to get the Walmart Walrus to leave is if you threaten to post her personal information and relevant information in a public forum. She’s piss and moan to the contrary, alas, she isn’t a legal scholar, but a two-bit coffee-pot jockey at a university in New York.
Men brought this upon themselves? Guess you never heard of Helen Gurley Brown, who (after taking the helm of Cosmopolitan Magazine in the mid-60’s) espoused the virtues of the pill, free love, and using your sexuality to obtain the things you want in life. All under the guise of ‘femininity’ I might add.
Go on, Walrus, keep thinking it. We’ll keep posting evidence to the contrary. Unlike you, however, men are fixers, and while the question of who started it is debatable, there shall be no question of who’s going to finish it: Men.
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At 12:31 AM, HAWKEYE said…
i must admit i feel sorry for wymon like nymom,
they have been brainwashed by the feminists lies,
the poor dears cant see the grave they are making for themselves ,
we try to warn them but thet are just to far gone .
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At 11:31 PM, Christopher in Oregon said…
Oh, heavens, NY Mom. I’m sure men (have) been replaced in your life. But, remember if they actually CATCH you having carnal relations with your dog, you will probably be arrested- for cruelty to animals if nothing else.
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At 12:56 AM, NYMOM said…
Christopher in Oregon:
You really are a useless idiot…
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At 8:53 AM, Anonymous said…
This is not really anon..the gov’t already know everything that goes online!
Point 1..yes this is a ’state-ist’ agenda to control procreation, production and everything else too..(control=feminista,anti-male stooges)
It will, eventually, self limit…other countries will soon need to capitalise on ‘old’ values and encourage intelligent ‘real’ males-and aware females, of course, to migrate to there.
Point 2..No such thing as pre-nup in UK.
Point 3…condoms split (or ‘perish’ the thought)can be sabotaged.
‘Fem’ birth control suspect..too tempting a scenario under these rules!
Wake up girls -we men may be soft hearted to self destruction…but not ALL eternally stupid !!
I’m an old ‘git’ now..learned the hard way…..and sorry for future men and women of good intention -including my kids.
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At 6:27 AM, Anonymous said…
NYMOM I feel sorry for the Dog. Heck, at least we can leave, animals dont have that option. I live next door to a feminist who used to yell and scream at her husband on a daily bases. So he left the biatch and she did the same thing as the troll here did. She got a dog. Now instead of yelling at her husband she yells at this little dog. A MALE dog obviously as a female wouldn’t do it for her. Tiny thing gets shamed, berated and generally serves as her witless companion so that she can feel “empowered” I should call animal cruelty. I guess they’d be out here in a moment. You see, you can torment men, but not animals in this country. She makes me SICK as do all there kind. IT always puts on the “sweet me” voice when IT needs the lawn cut or something fixed, SCREW her. Like I am too dumb to hear It’s vile and nasty mouth the rest of the time?
I am a powerful feminist woman. “Until” something goes wrong that I cant handle, which generally means “everything”
FOOTNOTE: When the Chinese or Russians or whatever army comes and they WILL eventually come as they have throughout our ENTIRE history! I’ll watch these sniveling fembots trying to rally the men to fight them and it will be tough SHIT sweetness. Go service them like the WHORES that you have become and you might live. I on the other hand will be welcoming them KNOWING that we are being LIBERATED from our western prisons. DONT fall for it guys, what is left to DEFEND in a matriarchy? The Wimmins rights and privileges and the ELITES way of life: nothing more. OH; They WILL be nice and act all weak and feminine until the threat has been neutralized, then the same plate of warm shit will be served up for us to eat again. SAD SHORT SIGHTED CREATURES THAT THEY ARE!
Steven
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How Women Think, from Mik3_D

2010-03-28T05:08:00.001-07:00

Guys,

Mik3_D on Mancoat found this on another forum he frequents. I thought it was something that my boys ought to see too.

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1. Feminism requires you to talk about “equality” for both sexes but some sexes are more equal than others.

2. God could be a womyn, but the devil is most certainly a man.

3. We’re equal to men, and this makes us morally superior to them.

4. We are equally capable of doing anything a man can do and men can’t do anything right.

5. We must scorn behavior which is associated with stereotypical masculinity while whooping with praise when the same behavior is exhibited by womyn.

6. We must demand that womyn be allowed into military combat because we’re equally capable of smashing-in the faces of vicious terrorists. But we also laugh at the idea that a husband could be the victim of a wife’s physical abuse because everyone knows that women are never violent.

7. We seek to stop “violence against womyn” but girl-on-girl violence and lesbians who batter their partners don’t bother us quite as much.

8. We attack the gender-stereotypes that portray womyn negatively as we gleefully embrace the ones that portray womyn positively. It’s customary to invert this rule for “you-know-who”.

9. Helping womyn succeed is not nearly as satisfying as seeing men fail.

10. “Power” in the hands of men is always destructive, selfish, tyrannical and harmful. This same “Power” in the hands of womyn is always democratic, nurturing, honest, good for the environment and good for humanity.

11. Men of quality support womyn’s equality but womyn never have to do anything to prove that they are “of quality”.

12. Finally, us feminists are absolutely not anti-male and that’s why we rarely have any positive things to say about those penis-having bastards.

13. Women are just as good at everything as men are, except for things at which women are better.

14. We feminists are equal to men, and that gives us the elevated authority to pass judgment upon them.

15. If you’re not female then your opinion doesn’t count, you sexist bastard.

16. Any criticism of feminism is a form of Hate-Speech. A feminist’s own speech is allowed to be as hateful as she wants it to be.

17. If somebody has the temerity to criticize the behavior of feminists, you should dismissively sneer that they’re attacking “strawfeminists”– absurdist caricatures who don’t exist. Feel free to resume your usual attacks on strawpatriarchs every day of the week.

18. The only feminist you are officially allowed to criticize is Valerie Solanas. That’s because a feminist has to literally advocate the extermination of half the planet before the rest of us start to wonder if she’s got a screw loose.

19. You have 10,000 years of grudges to seek vengeance for in your single lifetime.

20. Collective guilt and collective punishment are anathema to a society which fulfills the feminist goal of treating people as individuals, which is why us feminists must constantly intimate the collective guilt of men and suggest that they need collective punishment.

21. You must demand that a father shoulder half of any effort to raise “his” children as you simultaneously demand that a mother be granted automatic sole custody of “her” children after divorce.

22. Whether or not you feel “offended” is the central principle to how the world should be re-organized.

23. A feminist must say “Patriarchy” at least ninety-seven times per hour. The ten millionth time you say “Patriarchy” you will trigger a shower of confetti and receive a fabulous prize.

24. As a feminist, you are opposed to the spread of stereotypes. But don’t let that stop you from constantly stereotyping men as being an over-privileged class of dimwitted exploiters who always get everything they want.

25. Ovaries good, testicles bad.

26. We believe every woman should have unrestricted access to any kind of abortion, no questions asked. We also believe that abortion should be tightly restricted in China to prevent millions of potential girls from being robbed of their lives.

27. We feminists must demand aristocratic levels of deference while never behaving with aristocratic levels of gentility.

28. We must grouse continuously about traditionalist expectations of women while we conveniently forget to pay half the check on our dinner-dates.

29. Men avoid us because we’re too gosh-darned smart.

30. If a man works 60 hours a week to support a wife who cooks and cleans, the man is a lazy shit who exploits his wife.

31. If a woman works 60 hours a week to support a husband who cooks and cleans, the man is a lazy shit who exploits his wife.

32. If the majority of women do not call themselves feminists, the root problem lies with the majority of women and not with feminism.

33. We demand respect for all women and their diversity. That is why we dismiss, infantilize, mock or denigrate stay-at-home moms, traditionalist women, pro-life women, Republican women, Catholic women, Protestant women, Mormon women, Orthodox Jewish women, Muslim women who don’t object to hijab standards, Hindu women who don’t object to dowries, women who care about their weight, women who wear cosmetics, female researchers who study innate behavioral sex-differences, women who look forward to marriage, women who warn about giving birth after the age of 40, sorority sisters, cheerleaders, girls who like playing with dolls and any other woman who doesn’t slavishly dance to our tune. Except for them, we demand respect for ALL women and their diversity!

34. Falsely accusing a man of rape is a great way of raising his consciousness.

35. If a teacher were to beat black boys more than white boys, we’d excoriate him for hateful discrimination. If the same teacher beat only boys, that’d be fine.

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That about nails it. Until next time...

MarkyMark

The Don't Marry Essay: Why Marriage Has Become a Bad Business Decision for Men

2010-03-27T03:47:00.000-07:00

Guys,

This is originally from the Don't Marry essay. This is GOOD stuff that belongs in the MGTOW Survival Guide...

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Why Marriage Has Become a Bad Business Decision for Men

This writing seeks to educate men about the realities of what they may be getting into when they marry a Western Woman. An informed decision is less likely to be one that may be regretted later in the marriage. The intent is not to dissuade men from marrying, but to encourage them to communicate frankly their concerns and expectations regarding marriage with their potential spouses. The secondary aim of this essay is to enlighten women to a few of the reasons why increasingly larger numbers of successful, eligible, unmarried men, who would otherwise prefer monogamous long-term relationships, are turning their backs on marriage.

Society typically paints a negative stereotype of men who hesitate, delay, or elect not to marry.

They are labeled as either:

A) Womanisers who are unable to participate in a long term relationship, or

B) Selfish, childish or irresponsible men who can not take care of themselves or another person.

No other explanation is ever explored.

The cost of proclaiming your undying love

In University, in professional sports, in politics, in the workplace; women have the same educational and professional career opportunities as men. Contrary to commonly believed feminist propaganda, women do indeed get paid the same salary as men, given that they are willing to work the same types of jobs as men, and work as many hours as the men do. Despite this reality, many women come into marriage with very few assets, and often are saddled with substantial quantities of debt. In general, men are the ones who save and invest. Don’t believe me? Count the number of women of marrying age that you know who subscribe to financial services magazines or newspapers. A significant number of 20-something and 30-something women spend all of their disposable income on luxury rental apartments, upscale restaurants, frequent exotic vacations, leased cars, spa treatments, and excessive amounts of clothing, purses, shoes and accessories. Yet ironically, in the media, men are the ones who are portrayed as reckless, irresponsible spendthrifts.

When marriage enters the picture, double standards and financial imbalances leave responsible men to pick up the slack and fix the mess she may have made of her finances. Men are forced to spend their hard-earned savings, or take out an usurious loan, on a diamond ring. Women justify this relatively recent, mid-20th Century ritual, which was spawned by a brilliant 1940’s mass-brainwashing campaign launched by DeBeers, by insisting that a man wants to buy her a diamond and that it makes him proud to be able to proclaim his love and affection towards her in this fashion. Granted there are some men who may be inclined to declare their commitment to a life-long partner in this way, but there are plenty of men whom seek a lifelong partnership and commitment who have no interest in buying diamonds. What choice do these men have? None! To many young men, the ring, catered wedding, and honeymoon in an exotic locale at a five-star hotel is an unwelcome land mine on their journey towards adult financial stability and independence. To add insult to injury, he is now locked into a lifetime of insurance payments for this grossly overpriced jewelry. Contrary to popularly held belief diamonds are not rare at all, but instead are common and inexpensive. Their high price is due to their supply having been artificially manipulated. Some men are more concerned with realising their dream of owning a home and becoming financially stable enough to begin a family and responsibly provide for their welfare. Men worry about these matters, because, ultimately, it becomes their sole responsibility.

The purchase of the diamond ring is a predictor of things to come. Immediately after buying it, the man may be rewarded with bridal demands to finance all or part of a lavish wedding, depending upon the size of his bank account and the ambitions of his fiancée. The average costs of today’s Western Weddings frequently exceed that of a house down payment or, in certain parts of the world, the entire cost of the house itself. If a man enters a marriage having saved up a down payment for his dream home, it can suddenly be snatched right out from underneath him. Many men may object to spending such a large sum of money on what is basically a very expensive one-day, four-hour party. He also will be spending a year of his life planning it, when he could use the same time to further his career or education. However, what a man wants is really not of any concern anymore at this point in the proceedings. His wants, desires, hopes and dreams are ignored almost in their entirety. Her opinions regarding the wedding are frequently non-negotiable. A wedding is no longer an event that is equally for the bride and groom. As many of today’s Bridezilla’s will gleefully remind you, “Today is MY day!”. This gives her licence to become selfish, irresponsible, demanding and childlike. A man who balks at spending his entire life savings, or shouldering a five-figure debt load, for the ring, catered wedding and honeymoon in an exotic locale at a five-star hotel, can and will be labeled as a selfish cheapskate or not a “Real Man”. If a woman leaves such a man for him suggesting that they try to keep their costs under control, she would have the full support of everyone around her as she dumped him.

“She can do better”, “Clearly, he doesn’t love her”, “He doesn’t deserve her”, and similar sentiments will be muttered in quiet circles just out of his earshot. This is a sign of her good self-esteem and healthy self-image, and a sign that she won’t settle for anything less. She is the poster girl for the Modern, Independent Woman.

Imagine if a man demanded equal treatment and asked that she buy him a new bass boat, and a two-week bear hunt in Siberia as a condition of marriage. This would be viewed as absurd, yet women do it every day. Modern Western Marriage is supposedly an equal partnership, isn’t it?

The injustices go from bad to worse when children enter the picture. If he can afford to carry the entire familial financial burden, the woman may now elect to stop working entirely. She will often make this decision regardless of how he may feel about it. The day she stops working is the day that all of her past financial baggage unequivocally gets tossed onto his shoulders. If the woman has racked up substantial credit card debts, these are now his payments to make; if the woman has not bothered to pay off her student loans, these become his responsibility; if she owes an enormous sum on her luxury car note, it is up to him to pay it off. Irony of ironies is that he is now paying for her degree and she isn’t even working anymore! Can he object? Can he say: “No Honey, you made your mess, and it should not be my job to clean it up. You knew that you wanted kids even before you met me, and you should have planned ahead.” No, he cannot. The payments can’t be deferred until she is once again able to continue repaying them herself, not if he wants to retain a clean credit rating to get a loan for their dream home. If he even suggested that she return to work to pay off some of her own debt load, he opens himself to criticisms of being an unsupportive husband and bad father who is endangering the welfare of his children. Now the noose tightens and the responsible husband compensates for the mother’s freewheeling and irresponsible past, and begins slowly to pay off her old debts. In the most twisted turn of events yet, the debt he is paying off may often be on credit cards used to finance Vacations, Hotel Rooms and Christmas gifts shared with previous husbands, boyfriends, fiancés and lovers. Caveat Emptor! This is the reward for today’s man who works hard, makes sacrifices, plans ahead, and invests wisely. By getting married to the typical Modern, Western Woman, the man is certainly susceptible to being railroaded into this situation, because it is completely acceptable within today’s gender roles and societal norms.

Marriage can mean career slavery

Anyone who says, “Slavery is dead” clearly has not contemplated the predicament of the average Western Husband, where a good paycheck can mean career slavery. Merriam-Webster’s English Dictionary defines slavery as “…(T)he state of a person who is a chattel (an item of tangible movable or immovable property) of another person.” If the husband earns enough to support both of them, he would be hard pressed to make an argument to preserve equality and have her continue working as he does. If the wife decides to stop working, the man who has been left holding the financial bag finds his options very limited. He may find himself working in a career that he hates, for abusive and exploitative management, excessively long hours, in a position that is physically dangerous or demanding, in an organisation that has no growth potential, far away from home. At this point, considering the corner he’s been painted into, he is often powerless to affect any positive, meaningful change in his own life. He may have been harbouring delusions that once his wife was able to return to work, he would be able to gain some flexibility to rectify some of the shortcomings in his own career. Perhaps changing careers or accepting a lower salary at a different firm in exchange for better hours, a shorter commute, or more fulfilling work. Nevertheless, the distinct reality is that he will continue to shoulder the financial responsibilities of his family alone. His reward for working hard and getting ahead is to become trapped into his career, and become a specialised beast of burden to an emotionally and financially dependent family. Does it really pay to work hard anymore and apply oneself to his full potential?

If she stops working, she may never work again.

There are many debates about the merits of a stay-at-home mother vs. a working mother. My goal here is to simply educate the prospective husband on frequently unseen risks he is taking on when he agrees to accept 100% of the financial burden to allow his wife to stay at home. An informed decision is less likely to be one that may be regretted later in the marriage.

Every parent will agree that staying home with children is backbreaking and often mind-numbing labour. Many new fathers may concede that it is much easier to go to work than to stay at home with several children. However, the greatest imbalance in efforts and contributions to a marriage can manifest once all of the children are of school age. The house is now empty from 8am-3pm. The wife has 7 hours to herself while the kids are at school and the husband is at work. After a few years of hard work at home, many wives may feel entitled to “kick back” and take it easy. The good, supportive husband, however, has worked those same years, has done his 50/50 of the housework, and is still working just as hard to support the family once the kids are in school. His workload has not diminished, and it may have even increased as her expectations rise. He is rarely afforded the same option to scale back his daytime efforts.

What motivation does the modern wife have to return to work? Very little. For several years now, the man’s salary has been enough to live on. Otherwise, she would have been working to make ends meet. Unless tight finances dictate that she must return to work, the husband really has little say in this matter. The wife can hide behind many different excuses in order not to work, despite having little to do from 8am-3pm. Among the commonest are:

“I’m busy with the housework”

It is easy to exaggerate the labours of daily housework. Yet how long does it take to throw clothes or dishes into the washer, and remove them later? Vacuuming can be done in 1 hour a week. Grocery shopping is another hour per week. A decent meal can be prepared in under an hour. Does all of this add up to 7 hours a day? The lie that housework is hard, time-consuming drudgery is no longer as persuasive as it may have been in the past, because in an age of later marriage, many men are already experienced in cooking, cleaning, and general housekeeping and know that it doesn’t take that much effort or time. Humourously, not every stay-at-home-wife even performs all of these duties.

“I can’t find a job”

She has been out of work too long, and therefore is unable to find a job. This may be true, but many men do not consider this risk when they agree to support her while she “temporarily” stops working. Hopefully now they will, and can make a more informed decision. Many wives may use this as a convenient scapegoat to stop looking for any job at all. The next section describes how this can be used against him in the event of divorce.

“It doesn’t pay for me to work”

In the short run, the expenses of returning to work such as gas, lunch, clothes and day care may not make it worthwhile for her to return to the workforce. This may be true, but does that justify her playing tennis, drinking lattes and ‘catching up with her friends’ while her husband toils away? Many couples may be too shortsighted to thoroughly and comprehensively think through this issue. Initially, the cost to benefits ratio may not be ideal, but her returning to work will improve her job skills and network of contacts and over time the return on investment will improve. More so than strolling through the local mall every afternoon and window-shopping for new window treatments. Over time, as her career gets back on track, and she becomes qualified for better jobs, her salary should also improve.

It should be duly noted that some working wives view their salary as “personal spending money”, and still expect the man to pay all or most of the bills. Western Women are often heard to claim that, “What’s mine is mine, and what’s his is ours.”

Even more unfair double standards that favour wives

Cheating

If a married man cheats, he’s the scum of the earth. He is a selfish jerk that has jeopardised the family unit, done his ‘thinking with his little head’, and disrespected his wife and children. However, when the woman cheats, she’s portrayed as the victim of an insensitive and inattentive husband. “Poor thing, he ignores her. It is for her empowerment, to boost her ego. She deserves it after bearing and rearing his children.” It’s good for her self-esteem. Worse, her cheating is portrayed as the man’s fault. If he works long hours to provide for her and the children, he works too much. If he is tired at the end of the day from 13 hours of manual labour, then he doesn’t compliment her as much as she wants. Into this vacuum of conflicting expectations steps the first man who “makes me feel like a Real Woman again…”. You read that correctly; the man who is scrambling to pay the mortgage and car payments and is working double shifts to pay for the consumer goods she demanded to have is now considered a negligent and emotionally abusive husband. The man who may be working two jobs to allow her to be home with her kids is now considered a candidate for Domestic Violence.

When a woman cheats, the first thing people ask is what he did, or more often, didn’t do, to drive her into the arms of another man.

When a man cheats, no one ever asks the same question.

When a woman cheats, the reaction will be; “Oh, poor thing, I guess her husband couldn’t get the job done in the bedroom”.

When a man cheats, no one ever stops to think; “Oh poor fellow, his wife was horrible in bed.”

Let’s not forget what happens if a man were to leave his wife for a younger woman. This will become fodder at the coffee shop for months. It is automatically assumed that he is a shallow sex maniac whose only motivation was to be with a younger woman. The possibility that his wife was of a generation of women who were taught to hate men and that younger women do not, that she was lazy, or a reckless spendthrift, or verbally or physically abusive, or grossly overweight, or an incompetent mother, are rarely considered and are often totally ignored. The myth is that the only reason a man leaves his wife is to be with a younger, more attractive woman. Never mind if she is a better match for him and a more supportive, nurturing mate.

Pre-Nups

If a man insists on a Pre-Nup, he is selfish and unromantic. However, when is the last time a woman who demanded a Pre-Nup was called “unromantic”? On the contrary, if a woman requests a Pre-Nup, she is being fiscally responsible, sensible and looking out for herself. (Note: If your fiancée refuses to sign a Pre-Nup, she has just shown her hand. Best to leave now.) Why is it that a woman can refuse a Pre-Nup, and it is accepted by society? In reality, the man should be outraged that she is after a legal contract, and not love.

What is astounding is the hypocrisy of the usual reaction towards Pre-Nups. Women can conveniently assert that a man is unromantic if he suggests a Pre-Nup. After all, how can a man pollute true love with the signing of legal paperwork! However, what is a marriage licence? Nothing more than a legal contract entered into between the man, woman and local and state government authorities. A woman does not seem to balk at signing this legal paperwork, which entitles her to at least half the assets a man has accumulated as well as half of everything he earns in the future, and obligates him to support her in perpetuity in the event of a breakup. Why aren’t men allowed to note how unromantic this contract is? The distraction of bridal magazines, place setting selection, floral arrangements, wedding dresses, receptions, wedding showers, and honeymoons have clouded the legal reality of what men are getting themselves into. Marriage is as much an unromantic legal contract as a prenuptial agreement is.

Initially, Pre-Nups were devised as a way to protect women. Nuptial agreements were popularised in the 19th century, mostly to protect heiresses from marrying men who were “out for their money”. Until the Married Women’s Property Act of 1848, under English Common Law, a woman’s property, upon marriage, was usually transferred to her husband.

“Stupid, Irresponsible” Men

Men are severely abused in our media, quite frankly. Just watch any TV commercial or sitcom and see how they portray men as idiots, dolts, or well intentioned, if bumbling, buffoons. If women were portrayed in commercials in the same fashion, “Women’s Organisations” would have a fit. If it weren’t for their wives in these shows and ads the men would be lost “animals”, unable to feed themselves or perform even the simplest of tasks. Other commercials make it appear that men act without thinking, only responding in an impulsive and irrational manner, and that the wife is the brains of the family. Even many women will agree that women often are the ones who act upon emotions and make judgments solely based up on emotional attachments and not logic or reason. Almost every “couples budgeting” article will portray the woman as the one who has to rein in the man’s childish spending, when in truth it is usually the woman who cannot control her expenditures.

Job Loss

If a husband loses his job and is having trouble finding work, the wife is completely and totally justified in threatening to leave him. However, can you imagine the reaction if a husband threatened to leave a wife who was in the exact same position? He would be vilified! If a man loses his job, the woman is justified in resenting the fact that the financial burden lies on her. He is no longer a ‘good provider’. When is a man allowed to resent this very same predicament? If a man is laid off and cares for the household and kids while the wife is working, he may be accused of not pulling his weight! Yet this is exactly the same situation that women demand more recognition for with each passing year! No matter what role the man plays, he loses!

Traditional Roles

It is perfectly acceptable for a woman to demand that a man make a certain salary, drive a certain car, live in a certain part of the city, have a certain job, have the ‘right’ manners, talk a certain way, walk a certain way, behave a certain way, have a degree from the ‘right’ University and dress in a stylish fashion, to be deemed “marriage material” and be able to provide her with the stability she feels she deserves. If a man demands his wife do the cooking and cleaning, he can now be labeled old fashioned and sexist. If he asks her to carry her weight financially, just as he does, he may be criticised as an inadequate provider. If a man insists that his wife honor the conjugal requirements of the marriage contract, he can and will be accused of sexual abuse, sexual assault or rape.

To add insult to injury, some women have gotten so pampered that they not only quit their jobs the day they find out they are pregnant, but they then go out and hire as many nannies, cooks, gardeners and pool boys as their husband can afford. Many Western Wives stay at home and hire someone else to rear the kids and clean up, while they drink lattes and go shopping all day with other pampered “stay-at-home” mothers. Does it pay to work hard and get ahead anymore, if this is how your hard-earned money is squandered?

The concept of the pampered wife is a relatively new one. Most of Western Civilisation was primarily an agricultural economy even up until the 1920’s and 1930’s. Western Wives contributed to the well being of the household by helping on the farm. A man needed a wife as an equal partner. It was not until the 1950’s that the first generation of Western Wives, first in The States and later in Europe, Australia and New Zealand, began to emerge as dead weight. Perhaps this coincides with the spiking of the divorce rate in The States, and later Europe and the other English Speaking Nations, and the rise of Feminism. Perhaps men have become tired of giving so much, while getting so little in exchange.

Divorce

43% of Western Marriages end in divorce, and 70% to 93% of these divorces are initiated by women.

All men should consult a legal professional before marrying, and understand the implications of divorce, because the chances are 1-in-3 that they will participate in one whether they like it, want it, inititate it or not.

Upon divorce, all assets accumulated during and prior to a marriage are subject to division. It has become, simply put. a licence to steal. Even if the woman has not worked in years, and has spent the intervening decade(s) shopping and lunching from 8am-3pm, she is entitled to half, or more, of everything the man worked for during the course of the marriage. Is this fair? How many people would ever agree to a job contract that stipulated that in the event of separation that one party would have to return 50% of the gross amount of everything in the pay packet? No one in his or her right mind would knowingly sign such an agreement. Yet Western Men unknowingly agree to the exact same insanity each time they sign their marriage contract!

“Assets accumulated prior to a marriage are exempt from a divorce”. In theory this is true, in practice it is not. If funds from an account are commingled or combined, it can become marital property. How do funds become commingled, or mixed? If even the smallest sum from a prior account is spent towards the marriage, all of that account will now be considered marital property. Buy your child a lollipop from your own account, and a good lawyer will take one-half of it for your ex-wife when you divorce. If a woman moves into a home the man owned prior to the marriage, it is not safe from divorce. If she so much as hangs up a sheet of wallpaper, puts up draperies, paints a wall, or installs a light fixture, the home is now classified as joint marital property, and is now subject to equal division. Worse actually, the man can be ejected from the home if she makes a false claim of domestic violence, physical abuse, verbal abuse or child abuse. Where is the equality and fairness?

Note: “Equal Division” is also somewhat of a misnomer. Often, she can get upwards of 70% – 90% of the assets, while the man gets the majority of the debts! She gets all of the benefits, he gets all of the responsibilities. This, of course, is just and right and is his reward for working so hard all of those years. He can afford it; she can’t because she was not working.

If you pamper your wife, it can be used against you

Imagine that in the spirit of generosity and kindness that you gave a beggar a hot meal. A generous act, indeed. Now imagine your reaction if that same beggar sues you in court. He is petitioning the judge to have you keep providing him with the food that you gave him willingly, freely, out of a big heart. The judge orders you to keep feeding the homeless man meals, indefinitely, forever, because he has become accustomed to eating those meals! This is categorically absurd, yet this happens to Western Men in divorce court every day. Instead of thanking you for paying her bills for all those years, what you get is the privilege of being legally forced to pay her bills forever!

After having children, many women demand to quit working and stay home. Before the kids came along, many of these same women may have been in careers they hated, working long hours, and enduring long commutes. It is the man’s generosity and dedication to his own career that enables her to walk away from her own career. During a marriage, a man with a stay-at-home wife might work long and grueling hours in order to support her. He will pay the mortgage, the property tax, grocery bill, phone bill, cable bill, Internet bill and electric bill. He also pays for her car, gas money, clothes, and vacations.

As one final slap in the face, the man may be punished for working hard enough to allow his wife to have the luxury of staying at home with the kids. As noted above, after the children are in school, the wife may enjoy a life of leisure and relaxation that is afforded to her by her man’s hard work. In the event of divorce, he will be legally obligated to support her for years or decades to come. Because she stopped working and led a life of leisure, the ex-husband is now responsible for supporting her, forever! History has a tendency of rewriting itself. Originally, a woman may have had a career that she may have hated, and was begging to leave. Western Women often “play” at work and career for a few years after University, and then when they near 30 or grow tired of the workplace they seek out a man to “take her away from all of this”, whatever “all of this” may be. In fact her desire to leave the world of work may have been her motivation to have kids in the first place. But now, in her eyes, and definitely her lawyers eyes, she “gave up” her career for her man and his kids. She is now “owed” all of her “lost income”. His gift of leisure and support to her has now become twisted and is viewed as her sacrifice! Another way in which the situation is turned against him is that he will be characterised as being threatened by her having her own career, and that he forced her to quit her “lucrative career” and stay home with the children. Her lawyer will now attempt to convince the judge that he wanted to “oppress” his wife and “keep her down”. Truthfully now, how many men do you personally know that are upset at having a wife that earns a good living? Many of these misleading stereotypes still run rampant in our society, and are routinely used to the woman’s advantage during a divorce. As a result of her not working, regardless of whether she was minding the home or not, she remains a financial liability.

Generous, caring men who spoil their wives should certainly think twice about how this generosity can later be used against them. The phrase used in divorce court is “She has become accustomed to a certain lifestyle”. A husband’s reward for spoiling his wife today is the legal obligation to spoil her indefinitely, forever. Buy her a luxury car today, and you may be obligated to buy her luxury cars after she leaves you for another man! Yet, imagine a husband that became accustomed to eating a home cooked dinner, or regular conjugal visits. Now imagine the courts obligate the ex-wife to continue cooking for him and sharing her bed with him and his new girlfriend each night, despite being divorced! Inconceivable, but it happens the other way around every day!

The ultimate insult, however, comes when the man loses half or more of his life’s assets even when she has decided to leave him. Yes, a wife can unilaterally decide to kick a man out of his own home, and have the courts force him to continue paying the bills, while she is sleeping with her new boyfriend in the very house the husband worked so long and hard to buy! She can, and often does, spend her alimony check on gifts for her new boyfriend or lover! How is it that the legal system supports a woman who feels entitled to this?

The risks are clear, yet what exactly are men getting out of marriage? Many times, the reasons men get married are unfounded.

Many of the traditional reasons why a man gets married are a myth.

“I won’t die alone”

Wrong. The simple fact is that one spouse WILL die alone. Visit the hospital and go to the terminally ill or cardiac departments. Few people have the time to sit with an ill relative all day and all night. Yes, you may get visitors, but they aren’t having the same thoughts as you are. You’re contemplating your mortality, while they’re wondering what food the hospital cafeteria offers. In the end, even with a loving and supportive family, most of us will leave this world alone, unless you both die simultaneously in an accident of some kind. Your spouse may die fifteen years before you, or you may be in the hospital for your last year. Ultimately, we all die alone. Married or not.

“I won’t grow old alone”

Not necessarily. A marriage can self-destruct at any time. Your partner may initiate divorce at age 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65 or 70. Many married people end up in the same position (alone) as if they had never married at all. Now they enter their twilight years broke, as a result of being stripped of half or more of their life’s assets, losing half their retirement and pension funds, and being assessed alimony payments. Experiencing financial devastation from one divorce often may preclude a man from ever marrying again. This is a common observation of many middle-aged Western Women. Q: “Where are all the men?”. A: “He is broke from the divorce settlement, alimony and child support payments.” Thus these women don’t find him marriable, and he grows old alone and poor.

Men are led to believe that not marrying implies only one destiny; that of a solitary monk in a cave, a shunned loner. However, life is not so black and white. Not marrying does not mean you cannot continue to date or have meaningful relationships throughout your life. There are plenty of single people in all age brackets. A bad marriage can be the loneliest of institutions, because most of your emotional outlet and companionship is concentrated into one person who gives back nothing in emotion, affection or support. Young men in their 20’s and 30’s should be more aware of the alternatives that exist in life. They should be aware that marriage is a choice, and is not the only path life has to offer. An informed decision is less likely to be one that is later regretted.

“I’ll get regular sex”

Not from Modern, Western Women. Access to regular sex is the oldest and the most frequently cited reason to marry. Many men now know that Modern, Western Women frequently stop having sex after just a short time of being married. There are plenty of “sexless” marriages. Talk to a few married couples that are honest about their relationship. One or both partners may stop wanting sex after kids, or the sex may be as infrequent as once a year or once every six months, or the wife may only have sex when she wants the husband to buy her something, take her somewhere, or remodel the house. Read the honest opinions of married men on the Internet. Most Western, Married Men will have more sex with their Western Wives in the first six months of their marriage than they will in the next 40 years. Lastly, it remains to be seen whether sex with one exclusive partner for forty years or more is even a natural act, or just a man-made convention. In many Western Nations, the wife is no longer required to have sex with her husband. She can deny him at any time, for any length of time. She can, if she wishes, deny him sex forever and there is nothing that he can do about it. In fact, if he insists that she honor her end of the marriage contract by being available for sexual relations, he can and will be accused of, charged with, and arrested for Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault or Rape.

Marriage is hardly a guarantee of regular sex, as many people are led to believe.

“I’ll have someone to cook and clean for me”

Not necessarily. While a Modern, Western Woman is perfectly justified in quitting her job in the name of staying home with the kids, she can also demand that the husband pay for a cook, a maid, and a nanny. This leaves the man to earn the money, and leaves him to pay for maintenance of household and children, while the wife gets to play at being a housekeeper. Today’s woman is empowered by not performing the traditional housewife duties, regardless of whether she is working or not. If a husband asks that his wife perform traditional household duties because she is not working, he will often be labeled sexist, abusive or controlling, even if he is doing his “traditional role” of paying all the bills, providing for his family, and performing the traditional manly duties of vehicle repairs, maintaining the lawn and house upkeep.

“I have to be married to have kids”

Not anymore. Her ovaries do not physically need a contract at the government center in order to be fertilised by your sperm. Cro-Magnon man had children long before lawyers invented marriage contracts. Often, you do not need to be married in order to share health benefits. You do not need to be married to designate your partner on a life insurance policy. You do not need to be married to own a dream home together. It is ironic that responsible parents who raise a healthy family, but never actually sign marriage paperwork, get less respect than divorced parents or married parents who are ineffective, inattentive or incompetent.

-Having a lifelong, faithful, committed relationship has nothing to do with being “married”.

-Owning a beautiful dream home together has nothing to do with being “married”.

-Rearing healthy, happy, and successful children has nothing to do with being “married”.

-Building a family and life together has nothing to do with being “married”.

-Growing old together has nothing to do with being “married”.

In fact, recent changes in cohabitation, partner and marriage law have proven that the only tangible consequence of marriage is having a formalised separation process that usually requires the talents of an attorney.

You do need to be married in order to throw an extravagant four-hour party, and share the same last name.

You do need to be married in order to involve the state and government in your romantic affairs.

You do need to be married in order give away half of everything you own.

Besides that, marriage does nothing more than introduce lawyers and social workers into your life. These are people that otherwise would have nothing to do with your life or your relationship.

Men need to stop and ask themselves:

“Why exactly am I getting married? What exactly does marriage mean to me in today’s world? What is the benefit to me to get married?”

It is no longer a lifelong commitment, because it can be reversed overnight on her unilateral whim.

Marriage was originally created as a way for families to merge land, property, political power and influence; perhaps people should return to viewing it as just that and nothing more. The rest of it is fake modern TV Fantasy and Tabloid Gossip and Hype polluting the minds of today’s impressionable youth, and a way to keep the multi-billion-per-year wedding industry chugging along. Perhaps the only criteria should be to ask oneself: “How excited am I for us to merge our finances and assets?” When all the fluff and hype are boiled away, that may be the only remaining reality. Spend a day in divorce court, and you’ll see exactly what is real and tangible and lasting about marriage. You’ll see women who signed the marriage contract under romantic pretenses who are now expert laymen attorneys who can cite case law. Bouquet throwing ex-brides now embroiled in warfare to get everything that is coming to them and more! The rest are myths, lies, bold unsubstantiated promises, and maybes. “For better or for worse…”

The Western Divorce rate is 43%. It is higher in some parts of the world such as California, Great Britain and Australia. In Japan the recent change in pension law may have many pensioners out on the street. In India new changes to dowry law have men being threatened by their wives. Consider the number of people who are in a bad marriage, but elect to stay; Men who don’t want to lose 50%, women who know they can’t support themselves alone. Next, think of how many more couples stay together just for the sake of the kids. Of these “forced marriages”, consider how many of these marriages involve infidelity, no sex, or sleeping in separate beds or separate rooms. I estimate the percentage of happy and monogamous marriages to be under 5%. Are these odds you would take in a business venture, investment or loan? Most of the risk-averse population would not. Yet they seek this exception to the rule everyday through marriage.

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Read and learn, Grasshopper; read and learn...

MarkyMark

Dealing with 'The Question' at Work...

2010-03-14T09:14:00.000-07:00

Guys,

I published this post back in November, 2008. Since most of us have to work with women, we need to know how to deal with 'the question' at work. What is 'the question'? Why don't we have a woman in our lives? If there's one thing you, a MGHOW, can bank on, it is this: you WILL be asked why you don't have a girlfriend, fiance, or wife. In this post, I tell you how I handle this delicate situation, and why. Read and learn, Grasshopper!

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This post could be considered Part II of last night's post, "Ladies, It's YOUR Problem". The quandary most of us MGTOW find ourselves in is how to answer 'The Question'; how do we deal with the inevitable queries as to why we're still single? I'll relate past experiences along with what I learned; I'll tell you what I do now, and why I do it. It's worked for me, and I think it'll work for my readers too.

Number one is to remember that you must be careful around men too; it's not just women who will hold your honesty and candor against you. At my previous job, I was NOT shy about being a happy, single bachelor; I loudly and proudly proclaimed all the joys of single life, such as being able to purchase two motorcycles with my bonus. Not only that, my boss' right hand man, his assistant, was engaged at the time; I tried to dissuade him from walking down the Aisle of Doom to no avail. He and his woman both came from intact families, and to him, marriage was normal; he said to me that everyone gets married. After hearing that, I no longer tried to dissuade him.

Almost all the other guys in the department were married. There were three of us who were single: a nice, young kid who'd just graduated college; another man who's a Christian; and there was me. Anyway, in early 2007, my boss was told to reduce headcount; he was told that he had to get rid of someone. The axe fell on me. Though it turned out to be a blessing in disguise (my present employer is doing better than my former one, and I have better long term prospects), I don't think that my unabashed MGTOW views helped me. I don't think that most of the guys were happily married, and they didn't like me reminding them of that. The moral of the story is that you have to be careful around men too when it comes to expressing MGTOW views.

As for women, it goes without saying that you have to be careful around them. The moment you even INSINUATE that women might not be perfect, you get accused of hating women and all that crap; they'll tell you that you should have known better, picked better, etc. At least one of them will go crying to the boss about how you're a big misogynist; they'll say that you have 'trouble working with women', and all that crap. It doesn't matter whether your boss is male or female, either. If your boss is a man, he'll be eager to be the little ladies' knight in shining armor, so he'll come down on you; he'll make an example of you. If your boss is a woman, then she'll back up her fellow sisters; since you attacked one of them, you attacked all of them, including her. If you espouse MGTOW views at work, you're putting your job on the line.

Even if you keep your job, your future prospects at that employer have been damaged-all because you dared to criticize women, and say that they might not be perfect. And make no mistake about it; if you upset your female colleagues in any way, you just might end up with a pink slip. Employers are scared to death of a lawsuit from one of the dearies, so they'll do almost anything to placate them-even if it means firing you. Anyway, it goes without saying that you absolutely, positively CANNOT share your MGTOW views with women, nor can you share your reasons WHY you hold those views-not if you wish to keep receiving a steady paycheck.

It's easier for men to lose their jobs than it is for women; the converse of this is that it'll be harder for us to REPLACE that lost job too. One, women are members of the protected class, whereas we are not; women have the power in the workplace, and men do not. Women know this, and they will exploit this too-especially if it means getting even with someone who said that they're not a goddess; how DARE that POS man criticize me, a superior being! Two, we men will be discriminated against during a job search. Men interviewing job applicants are mostly manginas, and they're going to want some pretty eye candy to look at on the job; we are not eye candy to them. Women also have the EEOC and other alphabet soup, gov't agencies backing them; big daddy gov't tells employers that they'd BETTER give the little women a chance, so they do-at our expense, of course. Ergo, if you're a man, you do not want to run afoul of the little dearies-if you're unfortunate enough to work with them, that is.

I have told you what not to do, and I have told you why. However, I have not told you what TO DO. Don't worry, I'll answer that all important question right now...

So, what does a MGHOW say when asked about his single status? How does he answer such a question? You're about to step into a nasty mine field, and it must be navigated with care. You know what I say? I simply say that I never met the right one; rather, I met the right one, but I didn't meet her at the right time. I go on to tell about the lovely relationship I had while stationed at Pearl Harbor over 20 years ago; I wax poetic about how it was like the relationship Mr. & Mrs. Bailey had in the movie "It's a Wonderful Life". I know that this is idealizing things a bit, but not by much. I then say that, unfortunately for me, I was in the Navy at the time; I got orders sending me back to the mainland, thus ending the relationship. I close by saying that both the woman and true love that we shared ruined all subsequent women and relationships. Then, I leave it at that.

This does a couple of wonderful things; with either a male or female audience, this does some wonderful things. It easily deflects any subsequent questions about your single status, and does so in a way without making you look bad. I'll explain...

With men, they'll understand about wanting that someone special; though they won't openly ADMIT it, most men wish they'd married better, i.e. that they had a nicer woman for a wife. In other cases, they too lost a love from long ago, and they understand the power a lost love has over a man's heart. If you're dealing with a man who wishes that he married better, he'll quietly respect your decision to hold out for someone special, and he'll applaud you for doing so. If you're dealing with a man who also lost someone special long ago, he too will understand the power a lost love has on a man; if he married someone else, he will also respect and admire your decision to not settle for less. Face it, Fellas; most men wish that they either married someone else, or they wish that they'd remained single themselves. The worst thing you can do is rub their nose in the fact that you're a happy, single, and free MGHOW! No matter how you slice it, handling 'The Question' the way that I did will have your fellow men admiring and respecting you, not hating you for being happily single. Your fellow men won't consider you a pariah or enemy, and in this economic environment, that matters.

When dealing with women, I've found that they'll feel sorry for me when I answer 'The Question' the way that I have. They'll see me as a sweet, romantic, loving guy who's still carrying a torch for someone else; they'll see me as emotionally unavailable, so they'll leave me alone. Secondly, because they see me as sweet, romantic, and all that, they won't have desire for me, since most modern women want bad boys who treat them like crap. Thirdly, I come off as someone who's being true to his heart; they see me as following my heart. Since women are emotional creatures enslaved to their feelings, they understand this PERFECTLY! They'll feel sorry that I no longer have the love of my life; seeing that this is a tender spot with me, women will leave me alone too. By saying I met the right one at the wrong time, I get women off my back too, albeit for different reasons. Even so, I get 'em off my back WRT 'The Question'.

Whatever you do, do NOT tell them the truth! Come to think of it, if you say you haven't met the right one yet, you ARE telling the truth; you just aren't telling them all of it. Think about it; if you're a MGHOW trying to fly under the radar, you are telling them the truth. You have NOT met the right woman; you just leave out the part that, in this toxic, feminazi environment, meeting the right one is all but impossible. Men, particularly married ones, don't wish to be reminded of the fact that they made a huge mistake when they married. Women don't like to hear anything that even has a hint of criticism. If you say anything remotely critical to a woman, they'll go ballistic; they absolutely cannot handle being told that they're anything less than a princess or goddess-they just can't! IOW, what I'm saying to you guys is this: assume that both men and women cannot handle the truth, and govern yourselves accordingly. Give them part of the truth, but don't give them the whole truth. To borrow a line from Col. Nathan Jessup in "A Few Good Men", they (the vast majority of both men and women) can't HANDLE the truth! Ergo, you don't give it to them. Just give them enough to placate them, then drop it.

Jesus instructed his followers to be as wise as serpents, yet as harmless as doves. I think that this is a good example of that principle. Too bad I had to learn it the hard way, but at least I learned it. At work, if you're a MGHOW, then showing your hand is NOT an option! Repeat: as a MGHOW, laying your cards on the table is not an option! If you do so, you'll make enemies of both men and women you work with; this, in turn, could place your job in peril. So, just give them enough truth to satisfy them; tell them you haven't met the right one, and leave it at that. Again, you're telling the truth, because meeting the right one is impossible! You don't have to tell your COLLEAGUES that; they won't appreciate it if you do so anyway...

In closing, if you're asked about your single status, simply say that you haven't met the right one. Better yet, if you had someone nice long ago, but you got separated from her, then play that up. Men will understand why, and they'll leave you alone; as an added bonus, they'll admire and respect your decision to not settle. Women will see you as a sweet, loving, romantic person who's got a broken heart. They'll feel sorry for you, since your heart is broken; because you're carrying that sorrow (or so they think), they'll leave you alone, so as to not exploit that emotional wound. If you play up the broken heart angle, women will show compassion for you-even if you're a man! Who would've thought? A woman showing compassion for a man? Yes, it does happen! Furthermore, because they see you as a nice, romantic, sweet guy, you'll repulse most modern women; nice guys are boring and weak in their eyes, so they'll remove you from their 'boyfriend material' list. With women, you'll play up the 'feeeeelings' angle, which will work like a charm! In either case, as a MGHOW, you can continue to fly under the radar, thus preserving your job and livelihood; that's always an important consideration, but never more so than in these days and times. Thank you, and have a good day...

MarkyMark

Sudden Divorce Syndrome

2010-03-14T08:55:00.000-07:00

Guys,

I originally published this on my original blog back in July of 2008. I thought it would be MUST READ material for the MGTOW Survival Guide...

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Sudden Divorce Syndrome

Divorce may be the worst thing that can happen to a man's health, finances, and emotional well-being. Yet one in four men who will get divorced this year don't have any clue that it's coming. Here's how to avoid the surprise.

By John Sedgwick, Best Life

Hey, here's a good way to avoid divorce-don't be a dumb ass and get married-duh!

Like every husband who suddenly turns into an ex, Martin Paul, a pleasant, unassuming 51-year-old, knows exactly where he was when it happened. He was sitting on the back porch of his pricey hilltop house in the Boston suburbs one sunny Saturday morning, relaxing over coffee.

Paul is a professional collector, primarily of coins, but of other rare objects as well: Sonny Liston's ring belt; a submarine that appeared in the James Bond film The Spy Who Loved Me. It wasn't easy to build up his collecting business, but he had finally got it humming, and he was pulling down close to seven figures a year. Plus, the oldest of his three sons had suffered a frightening brain injury, but after two years of treatment, he had finally recovered enough to go to college. For the first time in a very long while, life was good.

Ah, you thought that, after all your hard work, you'd get to enjoy it, didn't you? Didn't you, pal?! Your hard work was paying off, so you were ready to enjoy the FRUITS of your labor; not only that, you'd actually get to SHARE it with your wife-finally! Why work hard if you're not doing so with the goal of ENJOYING the fruits of that work? Can't fault a guy for thinking that...

And so, that Saturday, he wanted to tell his wife he was thinking about finally easing off a little. They'd started going on expensive vacations in Europe and Hawaii, and he figured she'd be pleased at the prospect of taking more trips together, or at least at the prospect of seeing him around the house a little more, and not buried in his basement office. He had met her in graduate school over a quarter century ago, and they'd had their ups and downs, but he was still crazy about her. And he thought that, with a little more time together, she'd be crazy about him again too.

You thought that she'd be crazy about you too again?! Come on! Oh, she'll be crazy for you, but not in the way you were hoping for...

Dude, where did you get the SILLY notion that she'd appreciate you?! Don't you know that women cannot be satisfied? Didn't you ever learn that, if they're happy, then they'll INVENT shit to gripe about? Guess not...

But no. She scarcely listened to any talk of retirement, or of vacations, or of anything he had to say. She had plans of her own.

Yeah, she had a plan of her own, all right-dropping the HAMMER on her poor, hapless husband!

"I want a divorce," she said.

Ah she wants a divorce, huh? No wonder she waited until now to give you the 'good news'-you're worth money now, pal! And, now that you have some serious coin, she's going to help herself to some of it, hehehe...

Paul was so stunned that he thought he must have misheard her. But her face told him otherwise. "She looked like the enemy," he says. He started to think about everything he'd built: the thriving business, the wonderful family, the nice life in the suburbs. And he thought of her, and how much he still loved her. And then, right in front of her, he started to cry.

She looked like the enemy because she WAS the enemy! Bad move on your part to cry in front of the enemy; you're showing weakness, which will only breed contempt on her part for you. When your wife tells you she wants a divorce, she's ALREADY viewing YOU as the enemy, and has done so for months! When a woman says she wants a divorce, she's been planning it for months, if not years, and she has viewed you as the enemy for at least that long...

That night, he found a bottle of whiskey, and he didn't stop drinking it until he nearly passed out.

With all the surprises your wife had in store for you, it's too bad you didn't drink yourself to death; you would have been better off dead after she, with the help of Big Daddy Government, put the hurtin' on you! I got a taste of this 10 years ago when I got falsely accused. Though I dodged a bullet, I saw just how men are viewed & treated in family court during divorce. Sorry, but I don't want to go in there again, since it'll only mean one thing: my destruction. Any man who marries nowadays is a DUMB ASS, pure & simple. Why would ANY man (with two or more brain cells knocking together) would get married after seeing story after story like this is beyond me...

Things turned sh---- very fast. His wife took out a temporary restraining order, accusing him of attempting to kidnap their youngest son. The claim was never proved in court. Then, with the aid of some high-priced lawyers, she extracted from him a whopping $50,000 a month — a full 75 percent of his monthly income. Barred from the house, he was not allowed regular access to the office he used to generate that income. (On the few times he was permitted inside, his wife did not let him use the bathroom. She insisted that he go outside in the woods.) "My lawyer kept telling her lawyers, 'You're killing the Golden Goose,'" recalls Paul. "But they didn't care."

You know, when I see stuff like this, it makes it difficult for me to argue with Christopher from Oregon when he says that women are evil; that they have no morals; that they have no honor; that women have no scruples; that they hate men more than we can imagine. How can I argue with him now?! I mean, we have a false accusation. We have her extracting $50K/month in alimony from him-$50K/month! Never mind the fact that, with all of the divorce's mental, emotional, and spiritual fallout and the concomitant effects on Mr. Paul's health that he wouldn't be able to EARN the salary he had before; he wouldn't be able to earn enough money to pay that amount of legal extortion. Can you believe that?! She demanded and got $50k/month! Shoot, that's more than many people earn in an entire YEAR! We have her barring him from the house, so he can't work his business to pay her these exorbitant sums. His ex-wife WAS killing the Golden Goose, proof positive of her hatred for her husband.

Crushed by the payments, and unable to work, he soon faced such a severe cash-flow crisis that he had to declare bankruptcy. His wife still did not relent. She charged that Paul had been abusive toward one of their sons. Paul says the charge is absurd, but it did its work, limiting his visitation rights.

Isn't it wonderful how women can do these things with TOTAL IMPUNITY? I've heard guys say that, given the legal nature of marriage, the wife holds the Sword of Damoclles over her husband's head. Best part of all is that women can do this with the impunity of knowing that, no matter how HEINOUS her deed, she will not be punished for it. She's in the driver's seat, and she knows it...

Paul was sleepless and nerve wracked; his spirits plunged. He still missed his old life with his family. He missed the sound of it — the bustle of all the activity, the life. "I can't stand the silence," he says. "I miss hearing my wife breathe as she lay in bed beside me." In his desperation, he twice overdosed on prescription medication, but managed to call 911 each time before the drugs took full effect, and medics rushed him to the hospital in time. "I don't want to die," he says wearily. "I want to live. But I can't live with this torture." He did manage to keep a few mementos of his former life. Pictures, mostly. But also the kids' baby shoes. "I was always the emotional one," he says. "But that's all I have — the shoes, a few pictures. That's all. I used to be jovial, happy. But not now. I'm a broken man."

Read that again, fellas-especially if you're still ENTERTAINING the foolish hope & dream of getting married! Read it again! Oh, you don't want to? Why not? Afraid to think the unthinkable, are we? Afraid to acknowledge the harsh truth just beneath the surface that, if you take the plunge, that this could be YOU?! Go ahead, read it again, and let it sink in, Pal. If you haven't married, do yourself a favor-DON'T...

Sudden Divorce Syndrome. You won't find it in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, that bible of psychiatric illnesses, but you will find it in life. In a 2004 poll by the AARP, one in four men who were divorces in the previous year said they "never saw it coming." (Only 14 percent of divorced women said they experienced the same unexpected broadside.) And few events in a man's life can be as devastating to his physical, mental, and financial health.
"I meet men all the time who are going through breakups, and it's very common for them to say it caught them by surprise," says Los Angeles-based sex therapist Lori Buckley, PsyD, host of "On the Minds of Men," a weekly relationship podcast on iTunes.

Maybe because wives make an effort to CONCEAL what's coming! Deception has always been a part of warfare; there are sound tactical and strategic reasons for this. If your enemy doesn't know what you're REALLY up to, then it's harder for him to counter your next move. Someone who's interested in working things out does NOT undertake a strategy of deception, nor does this person engage in the tactics of deception; these are the actions of a determined enemy.

Do these wives ever really come out and tell their husbands what's REALLY on their minds? Do they ever say, "Hey Pal, I've got a problem with you. Here's what it is, and here's what I want you to DO about it.."? No, they don't. Women engage in giving hints that are so vague & nebulous that even Sherlock Holmes himself would have a problem even discerning their presence, let alone meaning! If a woman is vague with me, then she's gone-end of story. Sorry, but I'm not a mind reader, and I don't appreciate you expecting me to be one...

The warning signs are usually there, claims Buckley, but the male mind is simply not very adept at recognizing them. "When women make up their mind that the relationship is over, they stop talking about the relationship," she says. "Men interpret a woman"s lack of complaining as satisfaction. But more often, it's because she's simply given up."

So, according to Dr. Buckley, a man can't win! If she complains, you can't win; you can't do anything that'll please a woman who's complaining. If you, as a man, find a way to address or satisfy her complaint(s), the bitch will just dream up new ones! Then, according to Dr. Buckley, if a woman stops complaining, it means that she's given up, that she's given up, and is looking to bail out on you. Boy, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't-a classic Catch-22! Wow, just what I always wanted! To live with a nagging, ungrateful bitch, or be on the receiving end of her divorce antics when she stops being a nagging bitch-what a deal! Sorry, but this sort of thing does not qualify for my time or interest...

To understand how common this scenario is, consider figures provided by John Guidubaldi, a former member of the U.S. Commission on Child and Family Welfare. Nationwide, Guidubaldi reports, wives are the ones to file for divorce 66 percent of the time, and, in some years, that figure has soared to nearly 75 percent. "It is easier to end a marriage than it is to fire an employee," says Guidubaldi. If she wants out, it's over. "You can get a dissolution of marriage on the basis of nothing."

And that's PRECISELY why men are not lining up to be slaughtered, er married-precisely why! Why would a man marry, knowing that his wife is likely to bail on him? Why would he marry knowing, that if she divorces, then his life could end up destroyed? Why would a man marry, knowing that there is ABSOLUTEY NOTHING he can do to stop the divorce?

Oftentimes, men have a divorce sprung on them in midlife, when their kids are more self-sufficient and they've finally started to think they were over the hump. Like Martin Paul, they could start to relax. But that's exactly the time of life when the instance of divorce begins to swell (another occurs shortly after marriage). Joe Cordell, of the law firm Cordell and Cordell, which specializes in representing men in domestic cases, attributes this to wives deciding as they approach age 40 that it's now or never for getting back into the marriage market. It's the same phenomenon as rich guys trading in their long-time partners for trophy wives. Only it's the women who are shedding men.

Just HAD to get that obligatory canard about rich men trading in their wives for the younger, newer models! Never mind the fact that women file for divorces 70% of the time (see above in this article); never mind that, by a TWO TO ONE MARGIN, women file for divorce first. I beg to differ with Mr. Cordell here.
I also beg to differ with him on another point: why women bail at 40. Though they may see it as 'now or never' in the marriage market, I think it's due to a more selfish, more base reason: to wit, they know exactly WHEN to cash out! They know that, if they wait until a man has reached midlife, then: 1) he's progressed sufficiently far in his career, and is earning more money; and 2) the longer she's married, the more she gets, especially in CA. In CA, after a couple has been married for 10 years or more, then Wifey gets ALIMONY FOR LIFE. No Mr. Cordell, women bail out at this time not only because they want to use what's left of their looks to land another sucker; they bail out because it's the most lucrative TIME to do so...

It didn't used to be this way. While divorce has been legal for nearly two centuries, it was long a topic of such mortification that it was considered a last, desperate resort. The 1960s changed all that. The free-love decade both increased the inclination to divorce and dropped the social resistance to it. The rising financial independence of women began to free them from a need to stay in a stultifying or abusive marriage. As a result, divorce soared, doubling by most measures. But the stereotypical divorce story — man marries, starts a family, meets a younger woman, and leaves his wife — just isn't as common as we are led to believe.

What MSN DIDN'T mention was that 'no fault' divorce became legal during this time period! In 1968, Governor Ronald Reagan signed the nation's first, no fault divorce law. By the 1980s, all but one state (NY, believe it or not) had no fault divorce laws of their own on the books. By the early to mid 1980s, no fault divorce was the law of the land. Women quickly found out that, if they divorced Hubby, then they'd be richly rewarded for it. How richly, you ask? Let me put it this way: author Gabrielle Hartman says that, if a woman isn't driving a Porsche after three divorces, then she's doing something wrong! Oh, and this was before VAWA and the crazy DV laws that make anything Wifey doesn't like a crime for Hubby to commit...

Divorce did lose its stigma, no question about it; shoot, even growing up in the late 1970s, people GASPED at the news of a couple's divorce! It was not something to be proud of; it was a badge of failure, not of honor. At least when I grew up, people had enough morals and decency to be ASHAMED of such a shameful act...

"Marriage changes men more pervasively and more profoundly than it changes women," explains sociologist Steven Nock, author of Marriage in Men's Lives. "The best way to put it is, marriage is for men what motherhood is for women." Marriage makes men grow up. Nock observes that many men before marriage are indifferent workers, and, after hours, are likely to be found in bars or zoned out in front of a TV. After marriage, they are solid wage earners, frequent churchgoers, maybe members of a neighborhood protection association. But divorce takes that underpinning away, leaving men strangely infantilized and unsure of their place in the world. They feel like interlopers in the stands at their children's soccer games or in the auditorium for their school plays.

No, Mr. Nock, marriage doesn't make men grow up; it emasculates them, you idiot! Men aren't indifferent workers before getting married; they just don't have to be so driven when they're single. After all, they only have themselves to support, not some demanding, nagging bitch who has a bottomless pit of wants that can never be satisfied! No, married men don't earn more because they're married; they earn more because they HAVE TO...

Compounding this pain, men find the deck is stacked against them. The divorce system tends to award wives custody of the children, substantial child support, the marital home, half the couple's assets, and, often, heavy alimony payments.

What have we here? Truth from MSN?! I don't believe it! And some said that the Age of Miracles was over...

This may come as startling news to a public that has been led to believe that women are the ones who suffer financially postdivorce, not men. But the data show otherwise, according to an exhaustive study of the subject by Sanford L. Braver, a professor of psychology at Arizona State University and author of Divorced Dads: Shattering the Myths. "The man is in a lot poorer condition than the popular media portray," he says. "This idea of the swinging, happy-go-lucky, no-worries single guy in a bar... that's just not it at all." The misconception was fueled by Harvard professor Lenore Weitzman's widely cited book, The Divorce Revolution: The Unexpected Social and Economic Consequences for Women and Children in America.

Weitzman's 1985 tome claimed that postdivorce women and children suffer on average a 73 percent drop in their standard of living, while the divorced men's standard of living increased by 42 percent. Years later, Weitzman acknowledged a math error; the actual difference was 27 percent and 10 percent, respectively. But Braver says even that figure is based on severely flawed calculations. Weitzman and other social scientists ignored men's expenses — the tab for replacing everything from the bed to the TV to the house — as well as the routine costs of helping to raise the children, beyond child support. Even the tax code favors women: Not only is child support not tax deductible for fathers, but a custodial mother can take a $1,000 per child tax credit; the father cannot, even if he's paying. As "head of the household," the mother gets a lower tax rate and can claim the children as exemptions. If the ex-wife remarries, she is still entitled to child support, even if she marries a billionaire. Indeed, every year men are actually thrown in jail for failing to meet their child-support obligations. In the state of Michigan alone, nearly 3,000 men were locked up for that offense in 2005.

I just LOVE how these feminazis never, ever, ever count men's costs or deeds. Here, they didn't let the readers know that their figures were arrived at because they didn't account for the fact that a man would have to REPLACE everything he lost in the house, that went to Wifey, BTW! The house that, though Hubby can no longer live in it, he can still PAY for it! That's fair; let someone else have something of mine, yet make me pay for it-wow! Where do I sign up?! Ok, sarcasm is off. In all seriousness, this does not qualify for my time or interest...

These same quacks are the ones who talk about women working 'the second shift', doing all the domestic chores! They never, ever, ever count a man's dirty work (e.g. cleaning the gutters, fixing stuff, et al) as time done doing domestic work-never! They never tell you that! All they say is wahhhh, wahhhh, women do all the housework-waaahhhhh! The clear implication, of course, is that Hubby does nothing to help out, when nothing could be further from the truth.

For example, at work we had a four day weekend over Fourth of July; we work Mon-Thu, doing four 10 hour days vs. five 8 hour days. Since the Fourth was on a Friday, and since we didn't work that Friday, we took off that following Monday as a paid holiday. For me, it was nice; I had a four day weekend in which to do what I wanted. However, a guy I work with wasn't so lucky. No, he was doing projects around the house the entire weekend, no doubt doing Wifey's long ass 'Honey Do' list! This is the sort of stuff that women don't count when they bitch about their husbands not helping out around the house-what liars! Yes, this guy is married-what a surprise he didn't get to enjoy the long weekend relaxing...

Though MSN did tell more truth than I've come to expect from them, they didn't tell ALL of it. They didn't tell the reader that: 1) the hapless ex-husband cannot deduct child-support from his taxable income; 2) for the ex-wife, CS is TAX FREE INCOME FOR HER; 3) the ex-wife is not legally required to spend CS on the children, nor is she required to account for the money at all; 4) MSN didn't mention the big elephant in the room-imputed income. Imputed income means that, rather than taking the ex-husband's income into account when deciding the amount he has to pay for CS, that the judge can decide that he should be able to earn more, and set the amount on the basis of what the judge THINKS Hubby should be able to earn!

But for many men, the real pain isn't financial, it's emotional: "Men depend on women for their social support and connections," says Buckley. "When marriages end, men can find themselves far more alone than they ever expected." In a large-scale Canadian survey, 19 percent of men reported a significant drop in social support post divorce. Women are customarily the keepers of the social calendars, and all that is implied by that, providing for what University of Texas sociologist Norval D. Glenn calls the "intangibles" that can create much of a man's sense of place in the world. More often than not, wives send out the Christmas cards; they stitched that cute Halloween costume their daughter wore in second grade; they recall the names of the neighbors who used to live two houses down. The men who bear all these unexpected burdens do so alone, in a strange place, while their ex-wives and children live in the houses that used to be theirs. For an ex-husband to enter that house can feel like trespassing, even though it was paid for with his own money, or sometimes, built with his own hands.

What isn't said is that, prior to marriage, many women ISOLATE their boyfriend from his friends; they deliberately sabotage his support network, so he'll need her more! Women do this with the thought that, if the man needs them more, then he's more likely to do something decidedly against his best interest-get married...

Women also do this as a means of control. If a man isn't hanging out with his buddies, particularly if they're single, then, she figures, that they can't fill her man with crazy ideas-crazy ideas such as that she's a nagging, controlling bitch; that he should stay single to retain his freedom; that he is a human being, and as such, has all the rights thereof: to have his own life, his own thoughts, his own desires, his own dreams, his own hobbies, and the opportunity to FULFILL his dreams and exercise his rights as a human being-wow! That is an ANATHEMA to a vast majority of modern women-an anathema! Is it any WONDER men are saying 'no' to marriage?! As Warner Wolfe would say, Come on!!!

Then, to add insult to injury, they lose the house that they spent untold hours on; they spent countless weekends doing Wifey's 'Honey Do' list of projects that they never got to have time to themselves, let alone time to enjoy the fruits of their labor...

Long before his wife came along, a frame-store owner named Jordan Appel, 55, had built a fine house for himself atop West Newton Hill in one of the fancier Boston suburbs. He loved bringing in a wife and then adding two children. "It felt so wonderful to say 'my wife' and 'my children' and feel part of a community." He volunteered for the preschool's yard sale; his wife took up with a lover. Sometimes she slept with him in Appel's own house; in time, she decided to divorce Appel. As these things go, he was obliged to leave the house, and, as it happened, the community too. Money was so tight that he ended up sleeping in a storage room above his frame shop two towns away. His ex-wife works part-time on the strength of Appel's child custody and alimony payments, and spends time with her boyfriend in Appel's former house. She lives rather well, and he has to make $100,000 a year to support her and the children, which amounts to 70-hour workweeks. One day, he went back to his house and discovered many of his belongings out on the sidewalk with the trash. "My body feels like it's dissolving in anger," he says. "I'm in an absolute rage every single day."

Who says divorce isn't lucrative for women?! Look at this bitch; she made out pretty well, huh? She gets to live in a lovely house in a great location; gets to work part time; and, she bangs her paramour in HIS house-wow! No wonder women file for divorce all the time; they make out like freakin' bandits...

Then, to add insult to injury, this bitch TOSSED HIS STUFF OUT IN THE TRASH! She didn't even have the decency to let her ex know that she had X, Y, and Z of his, let alone ASK him if he'd want to keep it! No, she not only stuck the knife in; she twisted it to intensify the wound! I'd be upset, angry, depressed, flabbergasted, and many other things if I found myself in such a situation as Mr. Appel-again, if I were foolish enough to get married. Though part of me wants to feel sorry for this guy, another part of me wants to say that he got what he deserved for his foolish stupidity. And that's what any man marrying today is-foolish, reckless, and stupid...

"What are five of the biggest stressors a human being can face?" asks Ned Holstein, MD, executive director of Fathers and Families, a Massachusetts-based reform group for divorced dads. "One: the death of a child. Two: the loss of a spouse. Three: the loss of a home. Four: a serious financial reversal. And five: losing a relationship with a child. All of these except the first are combined in a father's experience of divorce. People always think the man is a lone wolf and he can take care of himself. Well, he's also a human being, and people don't think through what that means for men."

This is yet MORE truth from MSN! I don't believe it! They actually tell the truth that men have always known-that divorce just plain SUCKS-end of story. Not only that, they cite the multiple stressors that divorce brings into a man's life. Hey guys, you want to avoid all these stressors? Easy-don't be a fool and get married! Then, you don't have to worry about all this heartbreak and pain finding its way into your life...

Maybe because men AREN'T seen as human beings nowadays! No, we're just male chauvinist pig subhuman Neanderthals if you listen to women. We aren't seen as human beings, and THAT is the problem! No, women see as walking wallets and sperm donors; they view us much the same way they do their handbags or jewelry-as an accessory, not a thinking, living, breathing human being with thoughts, feelings, and desires of his own. Since women don't view us a human beings, they see no need to treat us as such now, do they?

As hard as such deprivations are on the psyche, they can be devastating to a man's health. Recently divorced men are nearly nine times more likely to commit suicide than their female counterparts, according to a study by sociologist Augustine Kposowa. "It's not so much the loss of money," he says, "but the loss of children that propels men to suicide." Or it could be a combination. Infuriated by his obligation to pay child support for three children he rarely saw, Perry Manley snuck a hand grenade inside a federal courthouse in Seattle last year and was shot to death by security personnel after they spotted it. The death was termed "suicide by cop." Kposowa has also detected an increased incidence of motor-vehicle accidents among divorced men, either due to a lack of concentration, sleeplessness, or, more darkly, suicide "cloaked as an accident," he says.

Mr. Manley was probably trying to kill the the thief in the black robe who'd impoverished him is more like it! He was trying to kill the judge, and he was killed before he could do the deed...

Compared with married or single men, divorced men are nine times as likely to be admitted to the hospital, to report difficulties at work, or to suffer significant depression. According to a study in the American Journal of Psychiatry, they suffer the effects of divorce with the intensity that their wives experience the death of a close friend. And they suffer physical maladies. "Their blood pressure goes up, and so does their cholesterol, and that drives up hypertension, heart disease, coronary artery disease, and peripheral vascular disease," says psychiatrist Arnold Robbins, associate editor of the Journal of Men's Health & Gender. Researchers at the Texas Heart Institute have noted that emotional stress can lead to a dangerous ballooning of the left ventricle, which they term "broken heart syndrome." Says Dr. Robbins: "A lot of metabolic syndromes kick in too, like borderline and type 2 diabetes. There's cirrhosis of the liver from too much drinking. Even prostate problems. It's not a pretty picture."

What they didn't mention, though they should have, is this: stress increases the likelihood of illness, not to mention the severity thereof-duh! If you're under stress, then your body will be more susceptible to illness, and it'll have less energy to fight illness once it's present. Didn't they just say that divorce brings MULTIPLE stressors into the husband's life? Didn't they also say that they were all the most serious ones a human being can experience? So, why did MSN not follow this to the logical conclusion that stress makes illness more likely?
And why wouldn't divorced men be more likely to commit suicide? Who wouldn't want to kill themselves after getting screwed like the typical man does during a divorce?

Scientists have recently come to some possible conclusions as to why this might be so. It may be as simple as a loss of being touched. James Coan, PhD, a psychologist in the departments of psychology and neuroscience at the University of Virginia, found that, for a husband, just holding his wife's hand is enough to reduce the stress associated with the anticipation of pain. Regular sex helps insulate a man from chronic stress, and that can pay off in increased longevity: In a study of 1,000 middle-aged men by researchers at Queen's University in Belfast, men who had sex at least three times a week had half the risk of heart attack or stroke of men who had sex less frequently.

Distressed by such facts, men's groups are springing up around the country. "Think of it," says Stephen Baskerville, president of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children, in Washington, D.C. "A father could be sitting in his own home, not agreeing to a divorce, not unfaithful to his marriage vows, and not abusive, and the next thing he knows, the court has taken his house, his children, and a lot of his money, and then forced him to pay his wife's legal fees and even her psychologist's fees. And he can be threatened with jail time if he resists."

Ka-ka-kaboom! Baskerville NAILS it! All this INJUSTICE of divorce, and women wonder WHY men are no longer interested in marrying them?! Come on! How stupid can you be, Ladies?! Haven't you ever heard of this little thing called 'Cause & Effect'? What did you EXPECT men to do after you all kicked us in the teeth for decades?! You didn't really expect us to bend over, and say, "Thank you, Ma'am; can I have another?", did you?! You didn't really expect us to come groveling for your love in the wake of all this hatred, did you?! If women are THIS stupid, then it's no wonder you all were denied the right to vote; you're not capable of EXERCISING it...

So, how to avoid Sudden Divorce Syndrome? One way, of course, is to avoid marriage. Another way is by working on your marriage when it can still be salvaged. Statistically, end-stage marriage counseling is rarely effective, despite what the counselors might say. Instead, husbands might be wise to pay attention to the essential ratio that — according to John Gottman, PhD, a world-renowned researcher of marriage stability — governs marital success or failure: five to one. That means husbands (and wives) should direct at least five positive remarks or actions to their spouses for every negative one. Any less and the marriage is in trouble. Or, following the much-admired work of Howard Markman, PhD, who holds couples workshops (loveyourrelationship.com), husbands should attune themselves to their wives' "bids" — for attention, for affection, for all the things that sustain a relationship — and do their best to provide for them. In truth, husbands are not built for the demands that wives often place on them; they are less inclined to talk things out or to display emotion. But then, marriage isn't easy for either party. When a wife wants out, it is usually not out of selfishness or senseless cruelty. Sometimes the love simply runs out. Husbands should do what they can to keep that love alive. That way, they might hang on to the many delights that marriage affords and spare themselves the countless horrors that divorce can bring.

The first sentence of the paragraph is all you need to do-avoid marriage, and you can avoid ALL this heartache and bullshit, fellas...

Though there is some merit in working on a marriage before it gets to the point of divorce, that advice is predicated on the assumption that women will be happy with what you, as a man, do. Though such women do exist, their numbers are so small as to be statistically insignificant. The vast majority of AW and WW are so spoiled and narcissistic that there is NO satisfying them; that is, as a man, there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO to make her happy, and it's best to proceed with that assumption when dealing with women. IOW, assume that they're all like this, since a vast majority of them are; then, you avoid marriage or serious entanglements with women. To borrow a line from Wargames, one can say that marriage is a strange game (not to mention hopelessly rigged against men); the only winning move is NOT TO PLAY...

But such advice comes too late for the many men like Martin Paul and Jordan Appel, who have already fallen victim to the syndrome. For them, the best, and perhaps only, cure will be time — time to forge a new relationship that can undo the ravages of the previous one. After all, most divorced men, like most divorced women, do remarry. A second marriage is a triumph of hope over experience, yes, but it's the best chance to restore the health and security that so cruelly has been taken away. Even without remarriage, the overwhelming sense of upheaval will gradually fade if the men can only persevere. And, in time, the experience will evolve into a
memory that, however bitter, yields a gift of wisdom.

Sorry, but many men, like myself, see no need or desire to play such a rigged game. Can you believe the NERVE of these people?! Yeah, guys, we know you got royally screwed; we know you got a bad deal from marriage. But, it's ok to do it again! All you need is hope, forgiveness, etc. I'm all for hope and forgiveness, but I'm not at all for being stupid. Thank you...

A Fine Example of 'Chyck Logic'

2010-02-26T05:58:00.000-08:00

Guys,

I posted a copy of this discussion over @ my orginal blog back on 22 June 2008. I thought it would provide an illuminating example of how women think-a necessity for any MGHOW.

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Author: al anon
Time: June 22, 2008 - 10:32 am

Women in their late 20s/early 30s have to learn to be "nice" and develop great personalities because the aloof/angry-at-the world/depressive mentality many have - and many have used successfully in the past doesn't work as well with the guys who are "left" so to speak.

Being nice goes a lot further than I think women understand. They see being bitchy and elusive when you are young and nubile and then try to replicate it when the dating pool has already weeded out the guys who fall for that shit (plus as women age they lose a lot of their sexual capital and guys just won't put up with it anymore.)

Naw, they don't need to learn THAT, Man! Why if women are nice to their men, or even entertain the mere THOUGHT of doing so, why they're letting down the Sisterhood! That would be weak; that would be giving in to her 'oppressor', for crying out loud! They can't be NICE to no stinkin' man now; why, he might take advantage of her...

That, and these chicks, when they were young, hot, desirable, and carrying less baggage than a luggage factory were 'in demand'; they were wanted, big time, so they were drunk with their power. They didn't have to be nice, since there were 100 guys lining up to replace the one she just blew off. They got USED to having men come down the tracks like rush hour trains, and they figured that this would continue forever. Silly girls...

Al anon is also right that, once men reach a certain point, then they're no longer willing to PUT UP with a woman's crap. Once men reach a certain point, they are no longer slaves to their hormones, so they're no longer willing to anything or put up with anything just to get some nookie. I find that the older I get, the less willing I am to put up with a woman's crap. Shoot, if I even THINK a woman will play head games, I'm G-O-N-E...

So yeah. Here's a rough approximation of a random panicked phone call I got from a close female friend last week to give you a peek into the mindset of late 20s female...

her -I've been crying all night, so and so is getting married. This is horrible. My life is OVER, I have nothing now.

me -Thats great, he's such a good dude. Who is he marrying?

her - some pasty-white 25-year old blond grad student bimbo bitch with bad ears.

me - Wait...Why aren't you happy for him? He was like your best friend in law school.

her - Because I loved him and now I can't have him. Everyone is getting married and no one wants to marry me.

Yeah, Darlin', your best friend is marrying someone else! Whose FAULT is that?!

me - Love him? You guys live five minutes from each other and never hang out. And aren't you dating some other dude?

her - I don't really want to talk about that.

Al anon, my friend, the LAST thing this stupid bitch wanted was to be confused with the facts! She didn't want to talk about HER role in losing a good man now. Why, that would mean she'd have to accept RESPONSIBILITY for herself and her actions! AW can't have that now...

me - I don't know, maybe he assumed since you are dating other people that you weren't interested in him.

Dude, you just HAD to point out the obvious, didn't you? Leave it to a MAN to look at things logically, and to remind this little dearie of the facts...

her - You are a boy, you don't understand. I should have never called you. You don't get it, I can't just be available and hang around him, he'll never like me then. I don't want to look too forward you know. I don't want to be rejected.

Darlin', you didn't waste ANY time dispensing the insults or shaming language, did you?! And I just LOVE the bullshit answer you give to his obvious, yet pointed question...

me - Too forward? Didn't you claim he only moved down here to be closer to you?

her - I don't know, maybe...he was going for his MBA.

Trying to deny past, narcissistic statements, my dear?

me - And moved five minutes away from you. When was the last time you saw him?

her - I don't know, December maybe. We hung out more in the fall. I'm busy, he's busy.

Ah, excuses, excuses. You know what they say: excuses are like anuses; everyone has one, and they ALL stink...

me - Why didn't something happen between you two?

her - He tried, two or three times invited me back to his place and such but I never went. I thought he'd think I was being a slut.

Ah, now we have a GLIMMER of truth trying to break through the clouds of your lies & deception, my dear! Now the truth is starting to come out...

me - We all just assumed you two were sleeping together in law school. You two were always together. He doesn't think you are a slut, he thinks you are the world's biggest prude and tease and after getting shot down he found someone else.

Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Of COURSE your buddy thought this chick was a prude and tease; she led him to think she was interested, then blew off your friend when he ACTED on the false signals this bitch sent out. Of COURSE he found someone else; he wanted a gal who wanted HIM-duh!

her - He stopped calling me too, the phone works both ways.

Oh, I just LOVE how you try deflecting responisibilty, Darlin'; I just love how you try saying, "It's not all my fault-waaahhhh!" How freakin' TYPICAL...

me - You shot him down sexually, you think he's gonna be hanging around?

Dude, you're being a patriarchal oppressor; you're being LOGICAL, for goodness sake!

her - We used to talk ALL the time. ALL the time. He was my SOUL MATE.

Too bad you didn't TREAT him like your soul mate, my dear...

me - He wanted to have sex with you, when you took that off the table he took that talk to someone or somewhere it could actually lead to something.

Dude, you keep pointing out the obvious! When are you going to learn that chicks do NOT want to be confused with logic, the facts, or the truth-ESPECIALLY if it makes them look bad?!

her - But we were like EPIC friends, I've never known anyone, ANYONE in the world who understood me like he did. Or at least tried to understand me like he did.

me - Maybe thats it, maybe he did finally understand you and knew he had to move on. I've been there...

Yeah, your buddy, Mr. NG understood that this stupid bitch didn't want him, so he went and found someone who DID-what a concept! Imagine that, a man finding a woman who actually WANTS him...

her - shut up. You are such an idiot. I suppose I could have called him back more. But I'm busy. And I have canceled plans with him three or four times in the past month or so.

me - So you never called him, canceled plans with him regularly, and shot down his sexual advances, I'm happy for him. He's too nice to date you. He should have moved on long ago.

So, this stupid, clueless bitch blew off Mr. NG REPEATEDLY, shot down his advances, etc., and yet she STILL expects him to be pining away for her?! COME ON!!

her - I hate you.

me - Yeah I know whatever, you have NO REASON to be upset. Really no reason.

her - He LIKED Me! Not some other bitch.

Yeah, but your ACTIONS told him that his love for you was UNWANTED; you told him, via your actions that you were not INTERESTED-duh!

me - Guys aren't that complicated. You are secretly dating someone else, never call him, cancel plans, haven't hung out with him in 6 months and yet you are shocked and crying on the phone with me about your best friend getting married. I can't help you with that. It doesn't compute.

What can I POSSIBLY add to that?! Al anon, you NAILED it, brother! Are you sure you haven't been hanging around MRA/MGTOW sites & blogs?

(sorry for the length but after perusing this thread I just had to share.)

Thanks for sharing with us, al anon...

MarkyMark

Men Foolish Enough to Marry in the USA Deserve What They Get

2010-02-26T05:44:00.000-08:00

Guys,

I made this post on my original blog, MarkyMarks Thoughts on Various Issues, back in August of 2007. I thought it would be good material for the MGTOW Survival Guide, so here it is...

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On the Mancoat forum, we recently had a poll as to whether or not men deserve their fate should they marry in the USA, or anywhere else in the Anglosphere. My answer was yes, and I shall give my reasons in the following paragraphs.

I voted option #2, leaning more to a 'yes' than a 'no'. Why? Because, despite all the brainwashing and stuff, the evidence is out there; though it may not be easy to see, it is out there. While one may be a victim of brainwashing, one doesn't have to REMAIN a victim of brainwashing-duh! There is the option of checking things out for yourself, rather than accepting things at face value. So, what evidence is there that marriage is a shit deal for men? What evidence is there to the contrary would be a better question to ask!

Exhibit A is the new Verizon radio commercial; I am so SICK & TIRED of it already! The commercial opens up with some black skank upbraiding her husband for buying some electronic device. Hubby tries to placate her, saying, 'baby', and she says, "Don't you baby me!" You then hear a noise which sounds like a slamming door (evidently him being refused entry into HIS house!), while he says, "It's VIOS!" Right there, in that commercial, you have the archetype for modern marriage. How many other commercials show the wife busting her husband's balls, hmmm? If we had a dollar for every one of them, we could all retire to Mexico, and bang hot Latina babes in between surf sessions-yes! Sorry, I digress...

Exhibit B are the married men EVERY single guy knows. He sees their beaten down, tired look; he hears their tales of woe; he knows what life they live. He's seen & heard enough married men in his life time to know what's going on. Ergo, he knows what he's signing up for if he gets married.

Exhibit C would be any women the man works with. You want to know what REALLY turned me off to women? Do you know what really cooled my desire and ardor for them? It was having the opportunity to observe them up close & personal while they weren't trying to impress me or attract me; I saw them when they were NOT using their charms. It reminded me of those who study animals in the wild while being amongst them, a la 'Wild Kingdom'. Of course, I'm referring to the old 'Wild Kingdom' with Marlin Perkins-now I'm betraying my age! Anyway, I'd hear my female colleagues mistreat their men on the phone, stuff like that. I'd also hear the women regale each other with how they mistreated the men in their lives, playing a game of 'oneupswomanship'. I found it disgusting and revolting...

Exhibit D would be popular talk show hosts, and how they talk of putting their balls in their wives' purses. I used to listen to "Mike & Mike in the Morning" on ESPN radio; I no longer do, because I don't have the time anymore, because I'm getting ready for work; I have to shave, the cat needs to be fed, as does her owner, etc. Anyway, I used to enjoy listening to them, and Mike Greenberg said, "Every married man knows that you cut off your balls, and put them in your wife's purse." That's a direct quote! I've heard other male hosts say stuff like this.

Sorry, but I don't work that way; I don't think any real man does. Where do I stand on this? Tony Montana (Al Pacino's character in 'Scarface') said it best: "In this world, all I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break 'em for no one."

Exhibit E would be for those men who are either into classic cars, motorcycles, boats, etc. When I had my first car, a classic Chevy, I had guys come up to me ALL THE TIME telling me about the classic car they'd once owned, but had sold to make Wifey happy. I've experienced the same thing on my W650. That bike, though it's a Y2K model, is a DEAD RINGER for the old T-120 Bonnevilles of the late 1960s; from the braced chrome fenders, wire wheels, rubber fork gaiters, tank knee pads, and peashooter mufflers, folks mistake it for a classic Bonnie all the time, because it has all the same styling cues. This gets guys to come up to you, such as the one who did last summer, that pathetic married wretch who said his riding days were over.

I remember that day well. I was out & about on my W650, enjoying a beautiful summer day! I was exploring parts of South Jersey when I decided to check out Mystic Island, a place I had never been to. There I was, taking a breather while enjoying a view of southern Barnegat Bay. While I'm enjoying my view, this Honda Odyssey minivan pulled up; the man, his wife, a female relative/friend of hers, and some kids spill out of it. The wife, female companion, and kids walk on the little beach, while the man came up to me wanting to talk to me about my bike .He told me about the old bike he used to have, and he asked about mine. I was only too happy to talk to him about my bike, of course. He seemed to want my bike or one like it.

I proceeded to tell this guy that, while the W650 was no longer available, he could get a bike like it. I told him about the new Triumph, and how they've come back, and how they're building great bikes now. One of them is the new Bonneville, an 800cc (now all new Bonnies are 865cc) parallel twin that looked like my W650, but was more powerful, practical, and still available. I then said that it could be had for about $8k, new-a great deal on a new bike. He said-and I'll never, ever forget this-"Oh no, my riding days are over." What?! My riding days won't be over until I SAY they're over! I knew exactly what he was saying, though; he was saying that, having been thoroughly emasculated by Wifey, he could no longer ride, or do anything else that HE wanted and/or enjoyed.

I then proceeded to say (loudly so that Wifey could easily hear me) that I didn't have a wife, so I could & would enjoy my motorcycles whenever I damn well felt like it, or something like to that effect. Hubby shuffled away in that pathetic way that only married men can, our conversation over. Wifey, her companion, and the children proceeded to walk away from me down the beach, and they had this PISSED OFF air as they did-yes! That was exactly what I wanted; I wanted that bitch to know that here is one man who refuses to be a tool in the Matriarchy. I'm sure that Hubby got his ass chewed though; after all, Wifey doesn't want him getting any silly ideas-ideas such as he is a person; he has rights; his thoughts, desires, dreams, etc. matter; and that he, too, can and should do stuff that HE likes and enjoys, not just her. Between owning a classic car in my youth and having a classically styled bike now, I've had PLENTY of reminders of what married men give up. I and an increasing number of my brothers are saying, "Uh, no thanks..."

Exhibit F would be the divorced guys every man in America knows. Every man in this country knows a man who got SCREWED in divorce court-every man! I know a couple myself. There used to be one who lived across the street from me. I'll call him Darrell. Anyway, his wife didn't want to fix their marriage, so she bailed. Unfortunately, he had a kid, so he has child support to pay. Darrell lived in a room above a bar. He worked multiple jobs. His teeth were rotting, because he couldn't afford to get the dental work done. He drove a junker of a car-when he was finally able to get one, that is. Though he's not perfect (no human is, or ever has been, with the exception of Jesus Christ), Darrell seemed to be a good, decent, upbeat guy who had a nice word for everyone in town. Almost every man in a America knows Darrell, or someone like him, so he can see for himself that he can be screwed over through no fault of his own...

Exhibit G would consist of all the famous guys who are undergoing divorce. I'm talking about Paul McCartney, Michael Jordan, Matt LeBlanc, Michael Strahan, and Alec Baldwin to name just a few. Their divorces and fallout thereof have been made QUITE public! If Paul McCartney and Michael Jordan can get cleaned out, then NO MAN IS SAFE. Since I'm from NJ, I've heard PLENTY about Michael Strahan, star defensive end for the NY Giants. He was ordered hand over more than HALF of his $15 Million in assets-ouch! Strahan also has an obscene amount of child support to pay out every month; thanks to the Bradley Amendment, his payments CANNOT be reduced at any time, nor can they be reduced for any reason. This is in spite of the fact that his playing days will soon be over...

In closing, the evidence is out there. I don't care how much biology gets in the way; I don't care how much damage brainwashing does, either. If a man will simply OPEN HIS EYES, he can easily see what's happening. God gave us eyes, ears, and a brain for a reason; it's up to each man to use HIS, and avoid marriage in America-end of story. The evidence is there; if you still get married, then you deserve whatever happens to you-end of story.

MarkyMark

An Old Guide for Men Managing Female Employees

2010-02-22T20:11:00.000-08:00

Guys,

Last year, Chrisvet on Mancoat found this blast from the past-1943 to be exact. I thought that this would be helpful to any MGHOW who has to either work with women, or supervise them. Therefore, it's going to be part of the MGTOW Survival Guide.

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eleven tips on getting more efficiency out of women employees
by L.H. Sanders | March 7, 2005

From the July 1943 edition of Mass Transportation magazine, written for male supervisors of women in the work force during World War Two.

There’s no longer any question whether transit companies should hire women for jobs formerly held by men. The draft and manpower shortage has settled that point. The important things now are to select the most efficient women available and how to use them to the best advantage. Here are eleven helpful tips on the subject from western properties:

1. If you can get them, pick young married women. They have these advantages, according to the reports of western companies: they usually have more of a sense of responsibility than do their unmarried sisters; they’re less likely to be flirtatious; as a rule, they need the work or they wouldn’t be doing it – maybe a sick husband or one who’s in the army; they still have the pep and interest to work hard and to deal with the public efficiently.

2. When you have to use older women, try to get ones who have worked outside the home at some time in their lives. Most transportation companies have found that older women who have never contacted the public, have a hard time adapting themselves, are inclined to be cantankerous and fussy. It’s always well to impress upon older women the importance of friendliness and courtesy.

3. While there are exceptions, of course, to this rule, general experience indicates that “husky” girls – those who are just a little on the heavy side – are likely to be more even-tempered and efficient than their underweight sisters.

4. Retain a physician to give each woman you hire a special physical examination – one covering female conditions. This step not only protects the property against the possibilities of lawsuit but also reveals whether the employee-to-be has any female weaknesses which would make her mentally or physically unfit for the job. Transit companies that follow this practice report a surprising number of women turned down for nervous disorders.

5. In breaking in women who haven’t previously done outside work, stress at the outset the importance of time – the fact that a minute or two lost here and there makes serious inroads on schedules. Until this point is gotten across, service is likely to be slowed up.

6. Give the female employe in garage or office a definite day-long schedule of duties so that she’ll keep busy without bothering the management for instructions every few minutes. Numerous properties say that women make excellent workers when they have their jobs cut out for them but that they lack initiative in finding work themselves.

7. Whenever possible, let the inside employe change from one job to another at some time during the day. Women are inclined to be nervous and they're happier with change.

8. Give every girl an adequate number of rest periods during the day. Companies that are already using large numbers of women stress the fact that you have to make some allowances for feminine psychology. A girl has more confidence and consequently is more efficient if she can keep her hair tidied, apply fresh lipstick and wash her hands several times a day.

9. Be tactful in issuing instructions or in making criticisms. Women are often sensitive; they can’t shrug off harsh words the way that men do. Never ridicule a woman – it breaks her spirit and cuts her efficiency.

10. Be reasonably considerate about using strong language around women. Even though a girl’s husband or father may swear vociferously, she’ll grow to dislike a place of business where she hears too much of this.

11. Get enough size variety in operator uniforms that each girl can have a proper fit. This point can’t be stressed too strongly as a means of keeping women happy, according to western properties.

This feature was first published on section15.ca’s predecessor site CoolWomen.

Modern Woman Encapsulated

2010-02-21T10:51:00.000-08:00

Guys,

This video encapsulates everything we hate about the modern woman. You'll see what I mean when you view this. It's a solid reminder to always be a MGHOW...

Is She a Crazy Bitch?

2010-02-19T17:20:00.001-08:00

Guys,

Nippon started a thread about this on Mancoat. He posted this quiz designed to help guys figure out if they're with a crazy bitch. This is GOOD stuff! You can visit Dr. Palmatier's blog here.

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This isn’t a rhetorical question. If you’ve asked yourself more than once, “Is my girlfriend/wife/fiancee a crazy bitch?” as a clinical psychologist, I’m here to tell you the answer is, “Yes. Diagnostically speaking, she may very well be a crazy bitch.“

A crazy bitch insidiously makes you feel like the unstable, angry person. You soon doubt your interpretation of events and experiences. In psychological circles, this type of woman is said to suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) or Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) or a combination of the two. Actually, the ones who really suffer are the people who come into contact with the Borderline or Narcissist.

Here’s a quiz to find out if you’re involved with one of these women:

Does she fly into rages without warning over relatively trivial matters like a web page loading too slowly?
Are you always the scapegoat/bad guy whenever she’s frustrated, disappointed or just plain bored?
Do her friends (that is, if she has any) describe her as a “drama queen?”
Does she describe herself as a drama queen? If so, congrats. You found one with a modicum of self-awareness.
Is her lipstick a little too red? Is it applied like theater makeup and a tad crooked?
Did sex begin with an earth shattering bang and fizzle into infrequent, transactional and conditional sex?
Is she a black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinker?
Do you lie to your family, friends and colleagues about what goes on at home?
Do you find yourself making excuses to your family, friends and colleagues for her inexcusable behavior?
Do you find yourself walking on eggshells around her?
Does she hate your friends and family and become angry or tearful when you spend time with them?
Is she pathologically jealous?
Does she project her feelings onto you? For example, she’s yelling and raging and then accuses you of being angry. WTF?
Does focus solely on her emotional experience while exhibiting little or no empathy for yours?
Have you distanced yourself from friends and family because of your relationship?
Does she place you on a pedestal one day only to tear you down the next day? “I’ve never known anyone like you before. You’re so wonderful!” Next day: “You’re the devil! You’re the most selfish bastard I’ve ever met! You don’t love me!”
Did she change her identity after she landed you? For example, when you first met her she was a sexy, adventurous, sweet ballbuster; now, she’s afraid of her own shadow, has no outside interests and goes ballistic if she has to do anything without you.
Does she put you into “no win” situations in which nothing you do is good enough and you’re guaranteed to fail?
Does she exhibit stalker behaviors? This usually occurs during the courtship phase or when she senses you’re about to make a break for it. For instance: Calling and hanging up? Calling over and over and over until you answer the phone? Does she wait outside your home, uninvited, until you arrive? Does she show up at places she know you’ll be, also uninvited? Has she tried to get close to your friends in inappropriate ways?

If you answered “yes” to more than two of these questions, you may be involved with a Borderline or a Narcissist. You’re not alone. They’re everywhere.

Most of the men who ended up in my therapy office were there because they were experiencing stress, depression or anxiety as a result from being in an emotionally abusive relationship with a Borderline or a Narcissist. Ironically, most of the time they were shamed and pathologized into seeking counseling by these women. Never mind that most of the symptoms my male patients experienced were a direct result of being in a relationship with a BPD or NPD.

If you think you may be involved with a Borderline or a Narcissist, good luck. They’re typically treatment resistant and they never really get any better. If you choose to stay in relationship with these women, I strongly recommend you educate yourself about the disorders and learn some basic behavioral management skills.

By: Dr Tara J. Palmatier, PsyD

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Seems that Dr. Palmatier just listed TYPICAL female behaviors! Actually, they're sick, twisted behaviors; unfortunately, they're becoming normal, because women think that they can get away with them. I'm going to put in a link to Dr. Palmatier's blog. Like Dr. Helen, this is one woman who GETS it, big time...

MarkyMark

Analyzing A Moment of Clarity

2010-02-19T03:22:00.000-08:00

Guys,

Back on 27 March 09, I ran this post, "A Moment of Clarity", at my original blog, MarkyMark's Thoughts. These are truths that belong in the MGTOW Survival Guide too. It features the video you're about to see. Why are you running it again? This time, I want to ANALYZE what that commercial means to us men; there are a lot of truths in that commercial, and I'd like to share them with you. Enjoy...

So, what does this commercial teach us? What hidden truths does it contain? I'm glad you asked, because I'm about to tell you...

One, it shows women before you marry them. It shows how their beauty and hot body are but a brief illusion; it shows how women are but illusions themselves. Notice how beautiful she is? Notice the bountiful breasts and the wondrously displayed cleavage thereof? You notice how enticing she looked when she flashed that beautiful smile of hers, while cocking her head in that coquettish way? As Christopher in Oregon has said and bears repeating, women's beauty and charms are an illusion; they are a dirty trick played by Mother Nature to get us to do something PROFOUNDLY against our best interests: breed with a woman and marry her. That's ALL it is, guys.

The second part of the commercial that I'd like to analyze is when the guy comes to his senses after he drinks his water; he has a spooky, yet accurate vision of the future that awaits him should he save the damsel in distress, and be taken in by her charms. He sees what marrying the damsel would entail, and it rightfully freaks him out.

Firstly, married life will SUCK! Secondly, the lovely, little lady isn't so lovely anymore after she's dropped a couple of womb turds. Thirdly, we get a glimpse of his mother in law and what HIS WIFE will look like when older. Finally, your life will NOT be your own, Fellas-not if you get married. Let's examine all but the first point one by one, shall we? After all, the fact that married life sucks goes without saying, amen?

The lovely, little lady who's got you weak at the knees won't always be so lovely; she won't always be so hot, Fellas. Look at when the commercial goes inside the mobile home. We see our former damsel in distress in a yucky, green gown. We see that she's pregnant with yet ANOTHER womb turd in addition to the three or four that the couple already has! Her hair is sloppily put up; it's not hanging down and framing her formerly lovely face. The little lady has clearly lost her youthful glow.

We then see our hero's mother in law come out of the bathroom as the toilet flushes-what lovely imagery! Anyway, the MIL is very instructive. Why? Because that's what our former damsel in distress will look like in thirty years time. It's been said that, if you want to know how your woman will age, just look at her mother; how true it is. What do we see when looking at the MIL? We see a fat, wrinkled up, old hag! We see someone who's face has wrinkled. We see someone whose hair is flat in color; there's no luster there like the damsel in distress had while hanging from the tree branch. Finally, those big, luscious breasts that the damsel in distress had will be sagging to the floor when she gets older-yuck!

Last, but definitely not least, this commercial teaches us men that we CAN override our instincts! We can override our desire for woman. We can override our desire to save and protect them; we can override our chivalrous instincts. We can override our sex drive, which is what gets us entangled with women in the first place. This commercial teaches us that, rather than think with the little head, we can think with the big head. If we think with the big head, we'll see that women and relationships therewith are not worth the heartache and trouble that they bring into our lives; we'll see that we're better off living as we please-on OUR terms, thank you very much.

Finally, we see that, should we be dumb enough to get married, that our lives will not be our own; whatever freedom we had before will be gone. Look at our hero. Before marriage, he was happy, single, and carefree, riding about the plains on his horse withersoever he went. After marriage, he's stuck with the woman and the womb turds; he is a caged, emasculated shadow of his former self. THAT is what you can look forward to when you get married, Fellas.

In closing, this video is very, very instructive. It's instructive on women's charms, and how they're an illusion. It shows us what the little lady will morph into; we see both near and long term what she'll become. We see that we can override our instincts, and do what's best for OURSELVES. Finally, we see the truth that we all know: to wit, marriage sucks! I didn't have to tell my boys that though, huh? Have a good night now, and I'll catch you on the flip side...

MarkyMark

The Sixteen Commandments of Poon, by Roissy in DC

2010-02-19T03:10:00.000-08:00

Guys,

A classic, must read piece for men is Roissy's Sixteen Commandments of Poon. While I'm not a big fan of Roissy's, he offers some valuable insights into the female psyche, insights that no one else is offering-especially in the lamestream media! This is information that every man should have; this is information that SHOULD be disseminated in the MSM. Unfortunately, it's not featured in the MSM, because they're too busy pushing their PC garbage.

Roissy shows us how women REALLY think and act when they're totally unrestrained as they are today. This classic post of his is MUST READ MATERIAL for men trying to navigate today's dating and relationship jungle. Guys, did you ever wonder if it was you? Well, it's not. This post belongs in the MGTOW Survival Guide. Here's Roissy's Sixteen Commandments of Poon, a classic for MGTOW if there ever was one...

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I. Never say ‘I Love You’ first

Women want to feel like they have to overcome obstacles to win a man’s heart. They crave the challenge of capturing the interest of a man who has other women competing for his attention, and eventually prevailing over his grudging reluctance to award his committed exclusivity. The man who gives his emotional world away too easily robs women of the satisfaction of earning his love. Though you may be in love with her, don’t say it before she has said it. Show compassionate restraint for her need to struggle toward yin fulfillment. Inspire her to take the leap for you, and she’ll return the favor a thousandfold.

II. Make her jealous

Flirt with other women in front of her. Do not dissuade other women from flirting with you. Women will never admit this but jealousy excites them. The thought of you turning on another woman will arouse her sexually. No girl wants a man that no other woman wants. The partner who harnesses the gale storm of jealousy controls the direction of the relationship.

III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority

Forget all those romantic cliches of the leading man proclaiming his undying love for the woman who completes him. Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be “The One” or the center of a man’s existence. They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. You must respect a woman’s integrity and not lie to her that she is “your everything”. She is not your everything, and if she is, she will soon not be anymore.

IV. Don’t play by her rules

If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man. Polarity is the core of a healthy loving relationship. She does not want the prerogative to walk all over you with her capricious demands and mercurial moods. Her emotions are a hurricane, her soul a saboteur. Think of yourself as a bulwark against her tempest. When she grasps for a pillar to steady herself against the whipping winds or yearns for an authority figure to foil her worst instincts, it is you who has to be there… strong, solid, unshakeable and immovable.

V. Adhere to the golden ratio

Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words. When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas. Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.

VI. Keep her guessing

True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don’t really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight — his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate. She thrives when she has to imagine what you’re thinking about her, and withers when she knows exactly how you feel. A woman may want financial and family security, but she does not want passion security. In the same manner, when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly. Reward her good behavior intermittently and unpredictably and she will never tire of working hard to please you.

VII. Always keep two in the kitty

Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.

VIII. Say you’re sorry only when absolutely necessary

Do not say you’re sorry for every wrong thing you do. It is a posture of submission that no man should reflexively adopt, no matter how alpha he is. Apologizing increases the demand for more apologies. She will come to expect your contrition, like a cat expects its meal at a set time each day. And then your value will lower in her eyes. Instead, if you have done something wrong, you should acknowledge your guilt in a glancing way without resorting to the actual words “I’m sorry.” Pull the Bill Clinton maneuver and say “Mistakes were made” or tell her you “feel bad” about what you did. You are granted two freebie “I’m sorry”s for the life of your relationship; use them wisely.

IX. Connect with her emotions

Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman’s emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendevous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic. Be playful. Employ all your senses. Describe in lush detail scenarios to set her heart afire. Give your feelings freedom to roam. ROAM. Yes, that is a good word. You’re not on a linear path with her. You are ROAMING all over, taking her on an adventure. In this world, there is no need to finish thoughts or draw conclusions. There is only need to EXPERIENCE. You’re grabbing her hand and running with her down an infinite, labyrinthine alleyway with no end, laughing and letting your fingers glide on the cobblestone walls along the way.

X. Ignore her beauty

The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. His apprehension and self-consciousness will melt away, paving the path for more honest and self-possessed interactions with the objects of his desire. This is one reason why the greatest lotharios drown in more love than they can handle — through positive experiences with so many beautiful women they lose their awe of beauty and, in turn, their powerlessness under its spell. It will help you acquire the right frame of mind to stop using the words hot, cute, gorgeous, or beautiful to describe girls who turn you on. Instead, say to yourself “she’s interesting” or “she might be worth getting to know”. Never compliment a girl on her looks, especially not a girl you aren’t fucking. Turn off that part of your brain that wants to put them on pedestals. Further advanced training to reach this state of unawed Zen transcendence is to sleep with many MANY attractive women (try to avoid sleeping with a lot of ugly women if you don’t want to regress). Soon, a Jedi lover you will be.

XI. Be irrationally self-confident

No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog’s instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don’t make it easy for them. Self-confidence, warranted or not, triggers submissive emotional responses in women. Irrational self-confidence will get you more pussy than rational defeatism.

XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses

In the betterment of ourselves as men we attract women into our orbit. To accomplish this gravitational pull as painlessly and efficiently as possible, you must identify your natural talents and shortcomings and parcel your efforts accordingly. If you are a gifted jokester, don’t waste time and energy trying to raise your status in philosophical debate. If you write well but dance poorly, don’t kill yourself trying to expand your manly influence on the dancefloor. Your goal should be to attract women effortlessly, so play to your strengths no matter what they are; there is a groupie for every male endeavor. Except World of Warcraft.

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.

XIV. Fuck her good

Fuck her like it’s your last fuck. And hers. Fuck her so good, so hard, so wantonly, so profligately that she is left a quivering, sparking mass of shaking flesh and sex fluids. Drain her of everything, then drain her some more. Kiss her all over, make love to her all night, and hold her close in the morning. Own her body, own her gratitude, own her love. If you don’t know how, learn to give her squirting orgasms.

XV. Maintain your state control

You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.

XVI. Never be afraid to lose her

You must not fear. Fear is the love-killer. Fear is the ego-triumph that brings abject loneliness. You will face your fear. You will permit it to pass over and through you. And when your ego-fear is gone you will turn and face your lover, and only your heart will remain. You will walk away from her when she has violated your integrity, and you will let her walk when her heart is closed to you. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don’t give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.

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The closer you follow the letter of these commandments, the easier you will find and keep real, true unconditional love and happiness in your life.

Best,

Roissy, Your Lord and King

Avoiding False Rape Charges

2010-02-17T03:18:00.000-08:00

Guys,

Over at False Rape Society, the guys did an EXCELLENT post on avoiding false rape charges. I'm rerunning it here, because this is a MUST READ for MGTOW everywhere. This is an essential part of a MGHOW's survival in an increasingly hostile world.

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How to Avoid a False Rape Charge

False rape claims are a reality, and sometimes there is nothing an innocent man or boy can do to prevent one from being lodged against him. Sometimes he is just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But a significant number of false rape claims can be avoided by exercising caution and avoiding situations where they are more likely to occur. Unlike rape, where political correctness gone mad tells us we should not put any burden on our daughters to avoid situations where rape is more likely to occur (that is called "victim blaming"), it would be unfortunate if we similarly hesitated to urge our sons to minimize the risk of false rape claims as a matter of principle. The long-term damage from a false rape claim is potentially so enormous that every reasonable effort should be taken to avoid it. Make no mistake, the onus for a false rape claim is on the false accuser, just as the onus for rape is on the rapist. But urging our young people to put themselves in harm's way just to make a politcal point is something no sane parent should ever do. It is no different from a parent telling a teenage son to avoid a bad neighborhood after dark.

Having closely studied false rape claims for a considerable period of time, I have compiled a short list of certain situations where false rape claims are more likely to occur, in no particular order of prevalence:

▲Casual hook-ups or one night stands involving alcohol. Asking the police or a jury to sort out what happened afterwards based on a "he said/she said" account puts a tremendous burden on our law enforcement and judicial apparatuses. But make no mistake: such situations are a recipe for disaster. Young men looking to "score" in that situation need to understand that women experience much greater after-the-fact regret than men do. Sometimes feelings of regret are translated into feelings of "being used," and sometimes feelings of "being used" are misinterpreted as "rape." Unfortunately, it is the politically correct thing to urge young women to party like the guys -- without bothering to tell them about the regret asymmetry that separates the genders.

▲Situations where the woman has motivation to deny sex with you was consensual. It is difficult to overestimate this one. In Prof. Kanin's first landmark false rape study, he found that the motive to cover up a sudden illicit encounter was the primary motivation for false rape claims. Situations to avoid: if the woman has a husband or a boyfriend, even if you think they are estranged; if the woman doesn't want her parents to know she is serious about you -- perhaps because she is too young or you are not "acceptable" to them; or if the woman is embarrassed to let her friends know she is serious about you. In each of these situations, if the woman doesn't want someone important to her to know she had sex with you, you are at risk of a false rape claim.

▲Group sex where there was one woman and multiple guys. This one is closely related to the previous point. First, we would be dishonest if we failed to acknowledge that gang rape is a reality. But, second, there's another reality that many people, especially many older people, do not care to admit occurs: our "hook-up" culture has spawned a trend where young women engage in consensual group sex activities with young men. Where there is just one young woman and multiple guys, this is a recipe for a false rape claim. Most sane young women will regret that encounter after-the-fact and will worry that at least one of the young men will "brag" about it, destroying what's left of her reputation. The fear of "slut shaming," as the feminists call it, seems to spawn off-the-charts regret, and that is a false rape claim waiting to happen.

▲Liars lose. If a woman claims you raped her, you are more likely to be charged if the police find you lied to the woman or to the police about even a matter that isn't crucial.

▲Being a school teacher, a police officer, an ambulance paramedic, or a cab driver. It would be a terrible thing if men stayed away from law enforcement or from being cab drivers the way men avoid the teaching profession due to fears about false rape claims. The reality is that men in any of these professions need to be especially vigilant. Police officers are at risk because some women charged with crimes lie about rape out of revenge or to claim that the charges were trumped up. Ambulance paramedics and cab drivers are sometimes targeted by delusional women or women looking for an excuse for some indiscretion.

▲Nasty break-ups. This one could be the most common situation for false rape claims. Divorce and custody disputes spawn false rape claims in order for the woman to gain the upper hand in the dispute. Spurned ex-lovers sometimes use false rape claims as a tool of revenge.

▲Older male, much younger female. A false rape claim is less plausible when it involves peers around the same age because the likelihood of a consensual relationship is greater. When a girl accuses a middle-aged man of rape, there is no possibility of legal consent, and actual consent is unlikely. Moreover, the allegation is generally viewed as so terribly loathsome that the mantra "guilty until proven innocent" is truly a reality for this one.

▲Teen boy, older woman. Sometimes women who statutorily rape teen boys will twice victimize them by falsely accusing them of rape. Such tactic has facial plausibility, given the male-as-predator stereotype, not to mention the relative naivette and exploding hormones of teen boys. It is especially disturbing that a woman would, as the cliche goes, throw her callow lover under the bus in order to save herself.

And I most certainly missed some -- please let me know if you can think of any others, and we'll add them to the list.

Rough Guide to Single Moms, by Zenking

2010-02-16T19:42:00.000-08:00

Guys,

Here's the inaugural post of the MGTOW Survival Guide! I'm kicking this off with The Rough Guide to Single Moms by Zenking...

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I thought I would set down a “rough guide” for men thinking about starting a relationship with a single mom and what some of the ramifications are of dating and entering into a deeper relationship with a single mom could be. Of course this guide does not apply to all women or all men but it will list the main problems I have observed through over the years.

Contrary to popular media-myth I have yet to meet a single mom who was career driven, carefree, balanced, happy; doing it all type gal as often portrayed in most media outlets. The reality I have seen over the years is usually a stressed out, overworked, debt stricken woman who really had no idea children cost so much in time, effort and money. Their careers are on hold as they need to balance their child with sickness, school activities etc… versus moving up whatever career ladder they are on. Most single moms are raising their children with help of an extended family member (usually their mom), a bevy of friends and other single moms they find in support groups. It is usually not a pretty picture at all.

Somewhere along the way, usually quite quickly they come up with the idea that they need a “partner” to help them in their new enterprise of having a child and the sooner they can get one the better. Realizing they have a bit of a disadvantage with having a child and being in the dating scene they resort to several well known strategies to get a partner.

One of the first strategies is to engage men who do not have children of their own. This allows the woman to portray the semblance of having and raising a kid is easy and there will always be a balance between their relationship with their partner and their child. Sometimes they will portray themselves as helpless victims, victimized by an evil and absent father – they need saving and you can save them. Another popular scheme is to make themselves look accomplished and together by extending their debt to ridiculous levels to portray they are all right and don’t really need a partner. There are quite a few more, but like I said, this is a rough guide.

One of the strategies is to involve the child with the prospective “partner” almost right away and foster a relationship between the man and her child. This allows a lot of leverage on several levels as time goes by. It allows for huge amount of guilt and shame if the man wants to break off the relationship, allows a bonding to take place that is hard to shuck off and other factors… You will hear phrases such as “any man who loves me must love my children!” etc…All designed to appeal to a mans sense of chivalry and protection. This hopefully facilitates a sense of belonging together and in the end marriage.

Most single men are unaware of what is going on when they start to date a single mom. It seems that the child is around, but it is pleasant, there is a clear distinction between adult and child time etc… it seems actually for most men, not a bad time at all. This allows the single mom to get the man closer and farther into the relationship. What is really going on is a shit-load of help from the single moms friends and other helpers. Tons of babysitting services, tips on dating, comparing notes and plans etc… No matter what you see as a man there is something else going on – do not forget that. Her plan is to eventually get a partner one way or another. You are the prize and she is going to earn it.

One trait that seems to come to the forefront with most men who are dating single moms is just how wonderful a woman they really are. Most men cannot for the life of them figure out why another man would abandon a woman like her. It has been stated hat single moms are more caring, compassionate, great lovers, excellent cooks, laugh at all your jokes etc…they seem to be ideal mates.

What is actually going on is well planned and orchestrated strategies to get a man into a relationship. I don’t know how many men have loudly complained that after marriage they were suddenly now doing most of the cooking, cleaning, and repairing around the house with zero time like they had before. I don’t know how many have said it was like night and day after they moved in. The kind compassionate woman the men met had some how now been replaced by a truly different woman, it was like another personality type than the one they married. In short a single mom knows she has to work harder to get a man and she will work harder, but for many the act cannot last that long and the real woman reveals herself. Usually his occurs just after marriage.

A lot of men though go for it and involve themselves in marriage with a single mom and do not really know some of the problems they will encounter. Here is a short list of several common problems that begin to creep up:

1. Being a “partner” means you get to pay for half- if not more. I have noticed after marriage a single mom works at dizzying speed to make sure her mans name is on all of the bills. She also will usually demand money also for a huge amount of her child’s expenses. It is also expressed as a part of “loving her and showing it”. I have seen men putting money away for college for a kid that’s not his. Buying ridiculous amounts of brand name clothes, expensive homes etc… all in an effort to be in a so-called “family”.

2. The Family you just got into is by invitation only. In most traditional marriages that produce children, the man, woman and child or children make up he basic family unit. In being a step- parent you are not the basic unit. The mother and child together are the basic unit. You are invited in and can be un-invited whenever mom feels it to be so. No matter what is said or mentioned before marriage, you will never come before her child. You will always be in a family and relationship where you come second, maybe third.

3. No matter what you think… her ex is going to be there forever. In just about every case the child’s father does not seem to be in the picture during the dating and courtship stage but seems to suddenly show up after. The reality is he was always there, your partner just never mentioned it…. The father will most naturally want to have a relationship with his child and he is going to be quite involved most of the time. Just about every time you will be dragged into the endless bickering and fights they have and you will not be liked by him…its only natural remember… also be sure to take into account the grandparents, uncles and aunts and all the family functions you will be attending with him, his child, his ex (your partner) and his side of the family. Get used to being uncomfortable.

4. Her kid will most likely not like you very much. Let’s face it you’re sleeping with their mom and most of the time the child will see you as a roadblock to his parents getting back together. Most likely the mom has made you the giver of discipline in the relationship, being the man and all…which results in the kid hating you. Or after watching the child run amok for weeks after you arrive you change juniors’ schedule to include some discipline and then you also hated even more. An amazing amount of men involved with single mothers report how the child hates them, but he can keep buying gifts to try to win their affection. Some call it the ATM effect of diminishing returns.

5. All that time you had together with your new love will end after marriage. The number one job of a single mom is simply to be a mom. She is not a party girl, hiker, camper, biker, clubber etc… Just be prepared for a frontal assault on your time and money after marriage. You will find your weekdays taken up with homework, PTA meetings, suppers at home, and early bed times. Weekends will be the time for the child’s extra-curricular activities and other activities. If a single man is wondering what happens ask any father of children how their time is spent, it will not be on hobbies. You will hear endlessly the phrase “we are a family now and this is what a family does” of course your idea on family will differ…but it is her family and she will make the choices.

6. You will wonder what happened to all your money. Most men involved with a single mom report that their money seems to dry up. Children are expensive- expensive like most men have no idea. Between school supplies, clothing, vast amounts of food, babysitters if you ever want to go out, medications, fees, sports, supplies, toys and such… well, there will be little left.

As a footnote there is also another ploy by some single moms that men also forget about. The child’s father is paying for a lot of these things. Quite a few men have reported that their wife or girlfriend was getting them to pay for such things as sport fees, equipment, university funds, school supplies and such but at the same time getting the child’s father to pay for these things also. Double billing, also called fraud, is quite common but it does allow the single mom to have almost zero expenses for her child as two men are now paying for junior….

Another ploy that is quite horrific was a man whose wife owned a home and he moved in with her and her child. Although he fixed it up, paid half the mortgage and expenses- she had willed the home to her children. When confronted she said since she would be dead she did not care if he had a home or not, her child came first. So be careful with matters of money. Very careful.

7. You will never really be accepted. I have observed time and time again the heartbreak of a step parent as the child gets older. After putting them through school, providing a place to live, food, getting the child all kinds of gifts and honestly really caring about the child and such I keep hearing this one story over and over. The time comes for a grad or a wedding, the step parent thinks he might be lauded for his sacrifices but instead is shunted to a back seat or not invited as the child invites mom and dad to the party…and thanks them for all their love and work. Usually there is not even an acknowledgement of effort.

8. You will now be part of the single moms’ network. Be prepared to help out all her buddies as they helped her out. Endless weekends and nights of babysitting the other single moms kids so that they too may date and get a man. You will also discover why 75% of all people in jail come from single mother households. Try not to have any expensive items around…

9. Now that the single mom is now married she will need to impress her single mom friends with her new found happiness. Her happiness will usually include a new home in a good neighbourhood, new clothing, new items for the home, new car etc… there is an unwritten law it seems among a lot of single moms that they compete ruthlessly with their friends. If she does get married she needs to show them her new found prestige. Be prepared for huge new expenses.

10. You will have no time for errors. A lot of single men get involved with the single mom and her kids when the child is a bit older. Being inexperienced with children becomes a huge burden as the single man has no time to learn parenting skills…and mistakes are not readily forgiven nor forgotten when a kid is 4 compared to 14.

11. You may think it ends, but it never does. I know many men whose single mom wife promised them a completely different life after junior turned 18 or so. At the beginning of the relationship it looked like just a few years and then total privacy and freedom. Then years later they found out that junior is going to go to university for 6 years after taking a gap year off and not worry about a job as he will live at home. After that the story usually is that the child gets married and has kids and needs a ton of babysitting services. The dream of trips abroad, moving to a nicer place etc… evaporates for most men. They just wind up being early grandparents. The other option that happens a lot is the girls have children early and stay at home. Not only is the man taking care of his wife’s child he also has to care for her grandchild now!

12. You will have nothing to show for it. In the end when most men have their own children the work and effort is well worth it. The men did their best and raised a family, continued a line, get grandchildren…etc… As a step-parent you have contributed as much but you have nothing. Nobody carries on your name and most men realize they are not even ever thanked for their sacrifice.

13. The legalities can kill you. There have been numerous cases where a man has divorced or left a single mom and then found himself liable financially for her child. Although not the father he will be responsible for child payments, extra fees and most certainly university far after they are 18….check the laws out, it’s a raw deal. Couple that with some alimony and you get the whole effect of being a divorced and homeless dad with not one child of your own….

In the end women have asked for their freedom to make their own choices now for decades. I would advise all single men to let single moms make their choice of having a child by themselves and then live with it. Don’t involve yourself with these women under any circumstances. It can be in many ways, the death of a man.

Well it’s a rough guide and you were warned…

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